So you don't buy the argument that globalization is lifting more people in China from abject poverty than it ruins over here?
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Replying to @Plinz
It may be, but China industrialized thru standard mercantile protectionism, not neoliberalism.
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Replying to @iwelsh
I think China is technically a pragmatically fascist country.
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Replying to @Plinz
Capitalism is not joined at the hip to democracy, whatever the Washington Consensus morons thought/thin,.
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Replying to @iwelsh
I basically agree, although I don't see a way out that is not horrible
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Replying to @Plinz
There were ways. But it's too late now. Still, there are degrees of catastrophe, even now.
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Replying to @iwelsh
Maybe China can pull it off (coordinating society at arbitrary scale while maintaining self correction of governance)?
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Replying to @Plinz
no, China isn't going to manage it. Princelings, too many problematic facts (like aquifer depletion) barreling down the road. Corruption.
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Replying to @iwelsh
Do you know empirically tested theories that allow to run a pluralistic society sustainably and at arbitrary scale?
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Replying to @Plinz
global capitalism failed to prevent an entirely preventable and predicted catastrophe. Climate change/ec. collapse. Not good enough.
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The catastrophe was pretty well predicted by the Club of Rome, yes. Whoever wanted to know, knew. The incentive structures were unaligned.
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