If I had not grown up embedded in German Romanticism within a RealExistingSocialism culture, I would be a different person.
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Replying to @Plinz
All of which was imprinted on you by ppl: family, teachers, etc. Had you been homeschooled by Buddhist monks...
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Replying to @tgoorden
systems can be causal agents, yet always consist of parts carrying its function
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Replying to @Plinz
My point is that the movement of nerd culture is composed of tiny nudges by ppl like ourselves. Systems thinking ≠ an excuse.
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Replying to @tgoorden
people are systems, too. normative categories are useless in understanding systems
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Replying to @Plinz
It's not about semantics. It's about personal responsibility vs externalities.
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Replying to @tgoorden
exactly. "personal responsibility" is never a good model if you try to understand what happens.
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Replying to @Plinz
But it might be a good model to see what can actually be done.
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Replying to @tgoorden
I think it is largely unhelpful, because it presupposes what is right and wrong, not how people get to their ideas about that.
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Replying to @Plinz
Hmmm. I would have figured you for a universal moralist (6th Kohlberg stage)
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More generally, if you subscribe to universal morality, you cannot deduce a narrow set of universal norms from that alone
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Replying to @Plinz
I would agree w those statements. However, even then it implies a moral imperative, however flawed our understanding.
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