@MXORN some ammo for your arguments against Joscha - dynamics is the superset of computation! http://www.offconvex.org/2015/12/21/dynamical-systems-1/ …
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I take this as an invitation for a delightful evening
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Perfect! I, for one, propose uniting under the banner of cybernetics, for reasons not related to my German benefactors.
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