Froese: the enactive view is a recent version of the embodied view -> biological not just robotic embodiment (experience) #socSMCs
@Culture_Ada It is the most recent version of a radically behaviorist view, augmented with a mysticist take on emergence.
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@Plinz As someone working from a cognitivist perspective, I understand the concern. Yet, I think there are lots of valuable points -
@Culture_Ada That is a lot like saying that creationism has valuable points from a social perspective, no? - 6 more replies
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@Plinz especially for social interaction. And I might go as far as saying that the two accounts may not be mutually exclusive -
@Culture_Ada Enactivism presupposes an external reality, which does not work IMHO, for epistemological reasons. - 3 more replies
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@Plinz I guess so, to my understanding, the claim is that there is no need to internally model of the world at all. -
@Culture_Ada Precisely. The claim that we don't internally model the world is empirically wrong. You can think with your eyes closed... - 1 more reply
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@Plinz in the “black box” sense? Because it doesn’t explain the processes that mediate sensorimotor inputs and outputs? -
@Culture_Ada Mostly because it ignores cognition itself, and messes up on epistemology.
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@Plinz - but I was just recently introduced to it, so I may not have the best picture :) Certainly the word "mystical" was mentioned severalThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@Plinz times w/ respect to the quality of experience, but I think the reply was that we need experiments. It's good if it makes one think :)Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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