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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Nikos Tzagarakis‏ @NikosTzagarakis May 14
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      So it could be a feature that controls the consequences for the actuators?

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 14
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      Well of course, it matters if the thing you want to touch is real

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    3. Nikos Tzagarakis‏ @NikosTzagarakis May 14
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      If we were indestructible immortals from the start we would be like rocks?

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 14
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      no, we would be substrate independent

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    5. Nikos Tzagarakis‏ @NikosTzagarakis May 14
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      Why learn if there are no consequences? I mean in the very beginning..

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 14
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      Our mind is the emergent operating system of a bunch of cells structured in a particular physiological architecture. Evolution will bias our mind towards learning how to optimize the sustainable reward for these cells, taken over several generations.

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    7. Nikos Tzagarakis‏ @NikosTzagarakis May 14
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      This makes sense... I think I actually thought of fear of death as something more real than other consequences (I guess I am human 🤖). It could very well be a different bias.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 14
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      Most humans are willing to sacrifice their own life for larger civilizational units.

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    9.  🦋 Cornelia Oldekamp‏ @nr1woman May 14
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      Most people are willing to sacrifice logic for ideology

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    10. Sorin Tudor‏ @studor86 May 14
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      All of them. Logic eventually fails all of us

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 14
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      I suspect that Cornelia was talking about something different: her experience that most other people construct their self and behavior in a fundamentally different way than she does herself, which makes her feel alienated

      12:37 PM - 14 May 2020
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        2. Sorin Tudor‏ @studor86 May 14
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          Exactly...that is why I said that eventually logic fails, because there is very hard to find a common ground in personal experiences. Am we all know there is a limit of what we can "accept"

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        3.  🦋 Cornelia Oldekamp‏ @nr1woman May 14
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          In my experience .Describing something logical is only possible if we share the same ideology. Without an ideology there is only logic. Few people can separate logic from ideology. Ideology is more based on emotional perception than logic.

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        1.  🦋 Cornelia Oldekamp‏ @nr1woman May 14
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          👽 this is true.

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