Is it really easier to go 100,000,000 miles than to just persuade Australia to allow a charter city/charter city state in Western Australia that pays them tribute and has aligned interests?
#Kangaroo_Mars
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Replying to @RokoMijicUK @murmosh
You may not even have to do that. Why not move into an existing remote settlement in Australia, Siberia or Alaska where you can do what you want?
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It has to eventually be self-sufficient and self-sustaining to provide any benefit. If it cannot produce almost everything it needs, then it will go down with the rest of human civilization in almost all scenarios. So it needs to have about 1 million people.
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Replying to @RokoMijicUK @murmosh
Do you feel that keeping the political structure of a 1M city state on track for isolation from the world is substantially easier than influencing the political structure of an existing ~1M people state?
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Yes, I do. In addition,
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Replying to @RokoMijicUK @murmosh
The incentives seem to be all wrong. Why would a million 1st world citizens raise their children in an inhospitable desert without being allowed to import whatever they need, unless they are religious fanatics?
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Because some wealthy people would fund it to be not-inhospitable (ahem,
@Elon !), because the political freedom could be leveraged to make it actually provide a higher standard of living than Western cities with outrageous rents, and because some people have a sense of adventure.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
Even if you could convince Bill Gates to give you 100Bn, you'd have 100K per person, which is by far not enough to build a first world city state from scratch. You could not even build Iceland (which heavily depends on imports).
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You would start with tens of thousands of people and $10bn and work up. The
#Kangaroo_Mars colony wouldn't start as completely self-sustaining, just like the real Mars colony wouldn't start as self-sustaining. Initially a lot of labor and materials would have to flow in.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @RokoMijicUK @Plinz and
You would make it profitable by selecting people on IQ. A country with an average IQ of 110 would probably have a big advantage. You would also need a coherent political philosophy though; without a unifying vision you would have a lot of trouble.
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Why would your children want to eat yeast with people with a 110 IQ in a bunker in the middle of nowhere if they could live in a city with a university, water view, good restaurants and an international airport in Switzerland or Norway?
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I think a prerequisite to this working is that you can get the basics of a civilization working quickly so that quality of life is great, better than in many places.
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