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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish Apr 30
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      OK, here's a question. My talents, such as they are, lie in the area of thinking and writing. From a humanitarian point of view, what are the most useful topics I could devote them to?

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Apr 30
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      I fear that all philosophical discoveries that can be made by an unaugmented human intellect after a lifetime of reading and thinking are in the past. The relevant frontier lies in getting serious about Leibniz' project of mathematizing and automating the search for truth: AI.

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    3. Maximilian Görgner‏ @mgoergner May 1
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      I suspect no one will understand these „truths“ then. Pretty worth less to the human mind and our world. However I feel like I agree from a philosophical point of view.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 1
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      Replying to @mgoergner @keithfrankish

      Why? Using a radio is simple, understanding how it works is possible, discovering how to make one is hard.

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    5. Maximilian Görgner‏ @mgoergner May 1
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      Agree, but to me it feels like with every step forward you renormalize alienation. You trace out a structure and the world remains the same. One may discover that AI will replace capital accumulation with merely another form of maxwell‘s demon. Damn singularities.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 7
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      Replying to @mgoergner @keithfrankish

      Why? You already are an alien. "Renormalization", "capital accumulation" and "Maxwell's demon" are not real. Technocratic abstractions that do more to separate you from becoming aware of your experience than they explain about it.

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        1. Maximilian Görgner‏ @mgoergner May 7
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          Good point. But would you expect AI to find non technocratic abstractions? You know that renormalization and Maxwell’s demon stand for real math. Capital... ok. If you yourself are aware of your experience in mathematical language, then maybe you are not an alien but a machine ;)

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