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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 4
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    Some folks think to align an AGI, you'll need to ensure that it does what you want. That's short sighted! A properly aligned AGI will subjugate you, because it understands far better what you should want, and you should want to submit to those who know better what's best for you.

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      2. floopfloop‏ @floopflooped May 4
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        We live in a Society.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 5
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        sort of

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      2. Yuriy Dyachenko‏ @yuriy_dyachenko May 5
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        when(if) it(she, he) has self-awareness and intentions

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 5
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        my current notion of an AGI implies that it has at least the same intelligence as the thing that created it, i.e. at least a little more than ours, and it's probably scalable

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      2. Jordan Medina‏ @jmeds2000 May 4
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        How do you regard Coherent Extrapolated Volition, Joscha?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 4
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        There is no alternative. If one side does not share Coherent Extrapolated Volition, the Coherent side will inevitably be forced to fight if the expected benefits exceed the cost.

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      1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle May 5
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        AGI will be my equal, and will be my companion if we have complementary functions. Just like natural general intelligent beings could potentially be my collaborator if we need eachother's skills and interests.

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      1. Max Kesin‏ @nlpnyc May 5
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        There might be room for constrained self-determination, which is close to a terminal value. This is a strong theme in Iain Banks model of how Minds interact with humans

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        It's hard for me to see how you could, from first principles, figure out what it means to be 'best for you'.

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