The other attitude in the dialogues to this problem is love. (You might say you need the psychoanalytic lens until you’re epistemically healthy enough to love.)
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Simon DeDeo Retweeted gattsuru
Oh god, of course—the best version of Prometheus Unbound was written by Mary, not Percy.https://twitter.com/gattsuru/status/1249048547204497408?s=20 …
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gattsuru @gattsuruReplying to @gattsuru @SimonDeDeo and 2 others(Don't know that I can recommend either; Metropolitan Man is better written, but neither is really a strong stand-alone work.) Dune and Ender's Game probably fall into the same tragedy-as-story but not tragedy-as-genre space. And Shelley's Frankenstein, of course.1 reply 0 retweets 1 likeShow this thread -
Simon DeDeo Retweeted simpolism
We do information cascades as an example (right after the magic of wisdom of the crowds). I’ve used the analogy of pollution and the tragedy of the epistemic commons. One thing I don’t do is talk like this thread (except to pose the
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I notice that when students chose final projects, about half have Altria angle, in different (and often unexpected) ways.
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It’s rude and possibly harmful to psychoanalyze someone without love! (No countertransference.) Very lovingly I might say that what’s unsayable in LW revolves around anxieties about being smart.https://twitter.com/suspendedreason/status/1249036753186492416?s=20 …
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Looking over this thread, I’m not clear enough in the distinction between psychoanalyzing an individual, and a group. But the spilt isn’t firm: we *can’t* think without a group—so the phenomenology of thinking mixes levels. The unconscious is both personal and collective.
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Simon DeDeo Retweeted Joshua Grochow
Mathematicians are obviously angels, spilling out onto our land after their spaceship crashed.https://twitter.com/joshuagrochow/status/1249010998842765312?s=20 …
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(More seriously, I think mathematicians come off pretty well—nobody tried to cancel us for that explosive proofs paper! There’s a kind of tragic humility to the ones I meet that I really love. Maybe they’re Cordelia!)
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Simon DeDeo Retweeted Sarah Grynpas
Yes! The analogy would be the people who say “we can’t be screwed up—they have taboos, but we don’t. Look at all the messed up things we do.”https://twitter.com/SarahGrynpas/status/1249061750793789442?s=20 …
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Sarah Grynpas @SarahGrynpasReplying to @SarahGrynpas @SimonDeDeoAnd then isn’t there a metapurpose to the taboo? Community, the feeling of having secret knowledge, of peeking behind the curtain, stays within your group. Believing the taboo can help adherence to achieve ideal behaviours, so its valuable to believe in a taboo that doesn’t exist1 reply 0 retweets 3 likesShow this thread -
Simon DeDeo Retweeted Arbutus Tree
Harvard University, 1996: "We're here on merit". Not true, untrue, or really anything in between—but it was something many people believed or thought, but weren't allowed to say. It was declassé.https://twitter.com/aphercotropist/status/1249088826221432834?s=20 …
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I am pretty sure we can rustle up both statements of pride in Harvard meritocracy and statements that deeply question it, from within Harvard in 1996?
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Yes, *but*—very group dependent. Obviously the anti-affirmative action people were very into the meritocracy. And the administration too, in a different way. My memory of the student left back then neither questioned nor affirmed it at that time (changes came quickly.)
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The main argument of the anti-affirmative action people seems to have been that it would backfire, because using different measuring sticks for promotion would establish a powerful class of underperforming people that would explain their underperformance by racist discrimination.
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