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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Apr 9
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    I suspect that some Western country governments were well aware of the need for enforcing decisive lockdowns early in the game, but were unwilling to do so because they were afraid to lose public support, especially if the measures were too successful.

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      1. Roko Mijic‏ @RokoMijicUK Apr 9
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        Roko Mijic Retweeted Roko Mijic

        https://twitter.com/RokoMijicUK/status/1221567505061289986 …

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        Roko Mijic @RokoMijicUK
        To add: It looks like there might be an incentive problem here. If an event objectively has a 1% chance of ending the world, people might not take actions to avert it because the other 99% is a world where they lose their jobs due to reacting to a false alarm.
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      2. Divia Eden‏ @diviacaroline Apr 9
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        Do you have particular western governments in mind?

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        Igor V. Retweeted Made in Cosmos  💫 Maria Górska-Piszek

        I would go with each one in Europe. also thishttps://twitter.com/made_in_cosmos/status/1244720309573386240?s=20 …

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        Made in Cosmos  💫 Maria Górska-Piszek @made_in_cosmos
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        I lived in Korea during MERS and at the at time thought their reaction was completely overblown. Now I see that if it wasn’t that overblown it might not have been this successful.
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      1. StopYourLimits‏ @limits_stop Apr 9
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        Governments never feared the loss of public support. They feared the loss of support by corporate elites, including banks, hotel chains and large manufacturers.

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      1. Alex‏ @papuschell Apr 9
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        This would seem to predict that Western governments tried to promote, not discourage, panic early to hasten the point where lockdowns have public support. If too successful, they can always point to other countries failing. If China held free elections today, Xi would do okay.

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      1. Jo‏ @jperla Apr 9
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        Yes. It’s really impossible to have locked down a leading huge economy early. Which also makes me forgive China for not doing that earlier.

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      1. Robert Janda‏ @RJsnda Apr 9
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        Czech government did it because of a very good reason...

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      1. Cautious Finitist‏ @epicmonobrow Apr 9
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        It's so weird, an early and decisive first week of lockdown is by far the potentially cheapest (in a bad case scenario) measure available.

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      1. D.P‏ @vo_d_p Apr 9
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        possibly correct. Republics and democracies have to be in a show. And by being in a show, something bad had to happen first.

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      1. Janne P Hukkinen‏ @Hukkinen Apr 9
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        I think decision inertia was due to – past is always known, certain, weighting in a lot more than uncertain unknown future – reluctance to change – changing knowledge increases uncertainty ̣– gov thinks citizens are dummy herd and cannot be expected to change behavior w/o protest

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