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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom Apr 2
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      I'm astonished that people think doctors, biomedical researchers, and public health professionals—who have devoted their lives to helping people—are lying about #hydrochloroquine treatment for #COVID19 just to hurt Trump, rather than expressing justified skepticism based on data.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Apr 2
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      Please correct me if I misunderstand, but we have a couple weak studies in favor, a couple that don't see an effect, and anecdotal evidence. More research seems needed?

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        2. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom Apr 2
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          That seems about right. I don't know anyone against more research. I know a lot of people who are cautioning against seeing it as our way out of this mess.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Apr 2
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          If so, then stating that hydroxychloroquine does DEFINITELY does may be politically motivated, no? I've seen that several times, and find it plausible that some of the push against hydroxychloroquine was indeed motivated by revulsion against Trump's premature recommendation.

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        1. Peter‏ @trash_gord0n Apr 2
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          And a limited supply. And patients with terrible immune disorders who need regular doses of it. And a president who needs a win. And the drugs can be deadly.

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        2. Bill(Mack orBuddy), plain ugly‏ @billbowlingsr Apr 2
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          The main study cited was TERRIBLE! Look at the stats from that study 26pts. Panned by every epidemiologist I know. It may work but need a randomized control trial to definitively say one way or other.

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        2. John Mashey‏ @JohnMashey Apr 2
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          Yes. For expert discussion by @UCSF experts, who are cautious, want to do resl trials, try:https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnMashey/status/1245825681306431491 …

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          John Mashey @JohnMashey
          CV1/ COVID-19 TREATMENTS & TRIALS, VIA EXPERTS (Temp replacement for https://twitter.com/JohnMashey/status/1003739017664315392 …) I try to summarize recent info by Infectious Disease (ID) experts amidst rapid change This is not on vaccines (~year off), but proposed treatments to lessen likelihood or severity. pic.twitter.com/lQnM16TtQp
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        3. Patrick Breitenbach‏ @pbreit Apr 2
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          Patrick Breitenbach Retweeted Mamoon Hamid

          UCSF is seeing evidence of efficacy:https://twitter.com/mamoonha/status/1241834362733096960 …

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          Mamoon HamidVerified account @mamoonha
          Grands rounds from @ucsf is pure gold💰🩺💊 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt-BzEve46Y … Treatments 1. Anti-virals work earlier for severe cases (end of week 1 out of 3 week disease duration) a. Remdesivir promising b. Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin >> chloroquine (early data) 2. Weeks 2 and 3 pic.twitter.com/rWi7GvRHfF
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        2. Justin‏ @justinRmcc Apr 2
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          Can you link the ones with no effect? Every study I've seen shows 0 lost lives on HCQ.

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        3. Patrick Breitenbach‏ @pbreit Apr 2
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          There was one that showed same results as group receiving "normal" treatment. The rest have showed HCQ efficacy. But the "experts" want us to wait for RCT results.

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        1. michael jack‏ @msiravo3 Apr 2
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          Meanwhile doctors are using it themselves and others are dying every day. Wake the hell up and make a judgement on imperfect information.

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