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    1. Abri‏ @vitalyenbroder Mar 27
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      Abri Retweeted Joscha Bach

      Again: there is no evidence, that smartphone tracking will anyway improve contact tracement. And anyway, the moment you act on such volatil data, phones will get swapped and left at home.https://twitter.com/Plinz/status/1243490133199880195 …

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      Joscha Bach @Plinz
      Data retention regulation is facing an important challenge right now: we need to change regulations to allow contact tracing and quarantine control, but we also need to install strong protections and safeguards to protect against abuse and mishandling of such data.
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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 27
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      Smartphone tracking is being used in several countries already. Do you have data that suggests that these measures did not work or that people did not comply, or are you conjecturing?

      12:39 PM - 27 Mar 2020
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        2. Abri‏ @vitalyenbroder Mar 29
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          In germany any kind of non-consensual tracking will be opposed and public health data gained by imperative tracking will fail to be reliable. I think, the way to go is using decentralized contact data retrieval and anonymous information to poossible contacts/transmission 5/5

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 29
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          In practice you are already being tracked, and the data is sometimes being used (in Germany) to determine whether you attend political protests etc. Companies also implement de facto consumer scoring based on which stores your phone physically visits (in the US).

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        2. Abri‏ @vitalyenbroder Mar 29
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          Hi Joscha, sorry for the late reply. Smartphone used by state to track people is used by states with low understanding of privacy. Thus tracing peoples contacts might be accepted as tracking is usually used to control the peoples activity 1/5

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          China, for example, uses smartphone tracking for social scoring and using this tracking data for public health purposes is considered acceptable use, as the data is in the authorities databases anyway. 2/5

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          China, for example, uses smartphone tracking for social scoring and using this tracking data for public health purposes is considered acceptable use, as the data is in the authorities databases anyway. 2/5

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        1. Abri‏ @vitalyenbroder Mar 29
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          This kind of citizen supervision is incompatible with democracies - guess, there is no need to explain, why. Anyway - if smartphone tracking by authorities is not accepted for public health purposes, people will simply not carry their smartphones 3/5

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          For non-teen households (other than in asian or african states) smartphones are not the only way to reach the internet. Contact tracking using internet provider data will be very unreliable if people do oppose to be tracked. 4/5

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