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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 24
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      Joscha Bach Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      The problem is not that there are no systemic thinkers in the world, but that editorial boards and universities don't hire them. The ability to think deeply is not at the top of the requirements list in job descriptions in media and academia.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1242426243909332993 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      We wasted February and the failure wasn't just from the administration. Many in media, too, fueled the complacency. Why? Because we don't know how to think about complex systems—something we must learn to get through this. I explain how. New piece from me. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/03/what-really-doomed-americas-coronavirus-response/608596/ … pic.twitter.com/MBdkBqvnPs
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    2. Subbarao 🛋️Kambhampati‏ @rao2z Mar 24
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      As my son says, there is just no reward for stopping crises in their tracks even before they become big enough for people to realize them... Running headlong towards yellow , and braking hard at the red thus becomes the norm.. (..as surely as these post-facto hand wringings)

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 24
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      A lot of people were downplaying both the danger of Covid-19 and the draconian Chinese measures, because there were only a few thousand deaths in China. When this is over here and less than a hundred thousand die, many people will complain that we killed the economy for nothing.

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    4. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 24
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      And we *may* actually be right. There’s little evidence Chinese measures actually did anything: SK and Japan didn’t kill their economies - untold # will die due to economic harm. will you weigh those deaths? Your truths are not self-evident.

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 24
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      SK and South Korea took this very seriously from the first case, while the US still thought the main problem with C19 is racism. The jury is still out on Japan. I hope that we are not in for a bad surprise:https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/japans-winning-its-quiet-fight-against-covid-19/ …

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 24
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      Replying to @Plinz @MostlyDev @rao2z

      It is possible that you are right, but given the situation in Wuhan and Italy, it is likely that you are not.

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    7. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 24
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      Replying to @Plinz @rao2z

      There are plausible arguments that this path carries a human cost much larger than possible costs of disease. Humans are worse at considering unseen trade offs than at forecasting exponents. Sometimes that which was traded-off would have damped exponential growth.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 24
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      I am not as worried about the cost of lockdowns as you seem to be. Most of our economy is busy producing casino tokens, landfill and documentation of transactions. Essential services will largely continue, nobody has to starve to death. Everything else will grow back quickly.

      9:50 PM - 24 Mar 2020
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        2. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 25
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          See, this is where you completely religious. The economy is comprised of the constantly changing particulars of place and time that guide billions of human choices and interactions. It also happens to be greatest force of poverty reduction in history.

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        3. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 25
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          A force that lifts people out of abject destitution at a rate in the millions every year -- but only while the depth and number of interactions is allowed to increase. A *decrease* in scope very predictably translates to a reversal of this process.

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