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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 9
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    Well structured societies don't simply emerge, they are constructed. Such societies insulate their later generations from existential issues most of the time, so they may think of governance as theatrical performance, serving audience approval rather than conditions of survival.

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      2. Casey Carhart‏ @caseycarhart Mar 9
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        How is consent of the governed achieved through theatrical performance?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 9
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        By reward and punishment of their own performance, but more importantly, the performance becomes the only available shared reality.

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      2. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott Mar 9
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        What is the difference between the two?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 9
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        In peacetime, the fate of a leader depends on whether the audience likes them and their faction supports them. In times of crisis, the fate of a leader depends on whether they have a good grasp of reality and their policies are successful.

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      2. Paul Fuxjäger‏ @fuxjaeger Mar 9
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        what is the intention of the constructors?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 9
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        To leave a better world to their children

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      2.  🦋 Cornelia Oldekamp‏ @nr1woman Mar 9
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        This is so much easier to accomplish a structure based on there only being one god with the same ethics and morals for everyone .A great example are the Jewish people. Also the reason socialists don’t like faith in anything else but the government. But that never works . Unless

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      3.  🦋 Cornelia Oldekamp‏ @nr1woman Mar 9
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        The government itself can convince their people they are god. NK is a great example of that.

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      1. von rezzori‏ @RezzoriVon Mar 9
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        yeah we're about to learn a pretty harsh lesson in this.

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      1. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 9
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        I would say they self-assemble under the right conditions and without too many constraints. If "constructing" well-structured societies was a thing, then we'd have a much better track record of constructing them where they don't already exist.

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