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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      4) As a footnote, it's mildly amusing that one of our current US political contenders is the dude who made billions of USD creating a service that curates and organizes and streams a bunch of the info Goldman & others have used to create their proprietary global economic models

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    2. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      5) Bloomberg's philanthropic donations are admirable; but, err, what if he'd put a few billions into creating an open source global economic model and mechanisms & incentive structures for keeping it updated? This would have been a pretty cool use of his particular superpowers

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    3. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      6) I would imagine Bloomberg never even thought of this, because from what I can tell his fundamental orientation is not to think too much -- and definitely not with any ambition or imagination -- about the benefit of humankind and transhumankind

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    4. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      7) Bloomberg's labeling women as "horsey-faced lesbians" is typical Wall Street style humor (I had an office on Broad Street a few blocks away in the late 90s) and his role in systematically increasing information and wealth inequality is also obviously 100% typical Wall Street

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    5. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      8) Meanwhile, as the shitshows of global politics continue to entertain, Goldman and ilk continue to leverage Bloomberg's and other information services to build a better understanding of the global economy than any government has...

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    6. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      9) "The better to eat you with, my dear" .... And where are the global initiatives to create open, democratic socioeconomic knowledge bases and simulations models?

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    7. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      10) In theory, the crypto-economic sphere should be fostering and enabling such initiatives .. but the crypto world is mainly wrapped up with crass low-modest-scale speculative trading, regulatory hassles, scalability issues and mediocre crypto-network-based gaming...

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    8. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      11) And make no mistake -- the scaling issues of crypto networks are real, but would have been solved eons ago with a fraction of the systematically deployed resources of a Goldman or Amazon ...

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    9. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      12) TODA/IP for example is one route to a solution to crypto scaling but nobody has put in billions to rapidly deploy a full-on decentralized version (not that it will take remotely that much $$) ... why? because the folks with the billions don't WANT such a thing out there

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    10. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 21
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      13) OK, rant over for now. All these problems are overcome-able with merely heroic amounts of smarts, effort and coordination. We can do it. @singularity_net @toouufii

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Feb 22
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      Replying to @bengoertzel @singularity_net @toouufii

      This requires a degree of integrity that singularity net does not remotely possess. Motivating, incentivizing and sustaining this integrity requires a very different setting.

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        2. Ben Goertzel‏ @bengoertzel Feb 22
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          Replying to @Plinz @singularity_net @toouufii

          As you know I have my own issues w/ the crypto-sphere from which SNET has emerged. However -- SNET platform is software which can be used in a variety of different ways and settings... just as e.g. Linux is now popping up in places that were not initially envisioned by many

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        3. fixdisshit‏ @fixdatish Feb 23
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          Replying to @bengoertzel @Plinz and

          What are your issues with crypto?

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        2. Rolando Moleda‏ @Rolandorou Feb 22
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          Replying to @Plinz @bengoertzel and

          such a thing need to be embedded In to a system equal as right as the concept it self

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        3. Wes Turner‏ @westurner Feb 22
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          Who would pay for a service offered though @singularity_net that wins #FREDcast every time?

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