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Joscha Bach Retweeted Greg Egan
Get it while it's fresh. And btw 'Axiomatic' is delicious brain food as well.https://twitter.com/gregeganSF/status/1220638322600509441 …
Joscha Bach added,
His Permutation City back in the day made me think about the nature consciousness like nothing else before.
I have been using Permutation City in class. I also love his Ndoli universe stories: http://eidolon.net/?story=Closer
Is there in fact some research that shines light on how processing speed affects (manifestation of) consciousness? https://xkcd.com/505/ (will check the stories).
It should not make any difference per se, but you can only track what you can sample, and you can only integrate what you can fit into a signal loop. So if you are stuck with a given substrate, you don't want to be too slow or too fast.
Would you consider a simulation to be integrated with the outside world, from the perspective of the simulated? Can consciousness be sustained if the state change takes orders of magnitude more time than e.g. the frequency our brains operate on?
What happens if you freeze a simulation and resume it an hour later? As you said, there shouldn't be any difference from the "inside" point of view. But it certainly feels weird that moving rocks on a plane would create consciousness.
But I think the flaw in that hypothesis is that it doesn't consider the movement of the rocks during placement as a state change in itself.
The simulation running in our brain does not have somehow a window to the outside world. What we perceive as the outside world is the simulation. The relationship between mind and substrate is the same as between hardware and software.
You dont observe your thoughts, you are your thoughts.
I am not my thoughts. I can stop my thoughts but I still perceive how I persist. But the I is arguably a thought of my mind. I am downstream from my mind, but upstream of my thoughts.
If you perceive, you are thinking. I dont get caught up by what the self or I is. But it is not separate from the mind or thoughts. They are the same thing.
Consciousness isn't predicated on thoughts. You can perceive without thinking (although it's quite hard). E.g. a practiced Vipassana meditator can get to a state of pure attention, and no thoughts (and allegedly, no self). Not speaking from experience :).
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