I perceive most spirituality as a phantom limb that developed after the amputation of culture. The need to be part of something larger than the socioeconomic here and now is by itself not woo.
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'I' respectfully disagree. Most uses of 'spirituality' can be defined as "the quality of being concerned with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things." which is as old as Humans are or at least when our basic needs as Humans were met
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But suppose one rejects Cartesian dualism - ie that there are no "souls or spirits"?
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A spirit is simply a software, specifically, an operating system for an autonomous robot. Humans clearly have spirits, societies do, and even plants do, because they are all autonomous robots that can be characterized by the software they run on.
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A spirit is a system that emerges over local interaction rules tailored for producing large scale structure. Without such tailoring, organisms would be chaotic blobs. The relation between spirit and matter is the relationship between software and hardware. Software is immaterial.
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again, a useful concept but why-in-hell call it "spirit" ? Software is physical. It is information represented in a physical form. Physical artifacts then make changes in their state based on that information. The emergent result is matter-in-motion.
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to be more precise "matter/energy in motion"
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Have either of you looked into Integrated Information Theory as 'I' find it very useful when thinking about such matters although it is dealing with 'consciousness'? The Wiki page is more accessible than their main project site IMHO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_information_theory …
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Yes, I've been following Tononi and Kristoff Koh since IIT came out. Interesting, but to my mind wrong in the extent of its claims. A high II strikes me as perhaps necessary for consciousness but far from sufficient. No, light switches and rocks are not conscious!
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KOCH not Koh! Damn twitter andit's "no edit"s!!
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I don’t buy IIT at all. Tononi is a smart independent philosopher and might refer to some ontological configuration that I misunderstand but I suspect nobody really understands IIT :)
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