To my mind, such nihilism is incredibly empowering: WE can and must craft our own social operating system. No exogenous voodoo.
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Replying to @jim_rutt @HiFromMichaelV
I know that you think that! Yet you and me are bound by more innate rules than those that we managed to rationally reverse engineer at the moment (we can do so as we become older and wiser). If the structure of shared meaning becomes intentional, we traditionally call it God.
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It is a disaster that our religions obfuscated God with mythology. The specification of the superorganism follows from game theory, cybernetics and our ecology. It is the platonic form of an enduring civilization.
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Replying to @Plinz @HiFromMichaelV
I'm not much on Platonic Forms arguments for God. Strikes me as no better than the Ontological Argument. Why is a God needed for an enduring civilization? It's a challenge but no obvious reason that it is impossible at least if we define enduring reasonably, say 500 years.
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Replying to @jim_rutt @HiFromMichaelV
Large parts of the Christian cult market have told us that God is an external entity, and somehow involved into universe creation, talkative burning bushes and major weather events. Instead, God is an organization we can choose to be part of.
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Replying to @jim_rutt @HiFromMichaelV
A civilization can be thought of as a scalable and growth oriented imperial machine that people submit to, which was the modernist project. Or it is an intentional organism formed of sentient cells. God as the soul of a civilization, an emergent software.
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Replying to @Plinz @HiFromMichaelV
I’m with you until you insert “god” what does that add to the telling.
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Replying to @jim_rutt @HiFromMichaelV
The concept has been growing on me quite recently. I think that a God is basically a sentient culture, a superorganism, which requires conscious coordination and maintenance. That is different from a machine society, or from a cult, or a tribe.
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Replying to @Plinz @HiFromMichaelV
how about a consciously self-modifying complex society ?That seems to me What Comes Next. And I still don't see any Gods there.
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A God is simply a self spanning multiple brains. Gods are not more real than selves, but they are hard to replace. I perceive even Chomsky as religious in this sense.
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Chomsky does not believe in anything he does not find out by himself
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Replying to @Plinz @HiFromMichaelV
So a business corporation is a God? I’m not getting the “God” part here at all. Is there meaning beyond organized social system?
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