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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Mark Browne‏ @bitking69 24 Dec 2019
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      Intelligence? What is that? I need an answer to that before I can go in to some “higher” version.https://discourse.numenta.org/t/brain-building-q1-define-intelligence/6829?u=bitking …

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    2. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 24 Dec 2019
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      All wrong. Why? Information is not defined. Define that first before you can move forward.

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    3. Mark Browne‏ @bitking69 24 Dec 2019
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      Do you have this definition?

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    4. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 24 Dec 2019
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      https://arxiv.org/abs/1405.5563 

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    5. Mark Browne‏ @bitking69 24 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @dlevenstein

      I am pretty sure that when a mouse learns the location of the cheese stores he does not worry about the physics details as the information is encoded onto his little mouse cortex.

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    6. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 24 Dec 2019
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      Before you can understand the meaning of 'information is encoded onto his little mouse cortex' you have to understand the nature of that 'information' that you describe as being encoded.

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    7. 𝒶𝓁𝓌𝒶𝓎𝓈 🄵🅁🄴🅂🄷‏ @rhyolight 24 Dec 2019
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      This makes no sense. Information is information. When you talk about "meaning" or "nature" of information, you're not talking about anything.

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    8. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 24 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @rhyolight @bitking69 @dlevenstein

      You'll need to expand your mind to realize that it does make perfect sense. If you only think of it from its encoding in bits, then you are looking at it only from the perspective of communication.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @rhyolight and

      What makes your statements hard to parse is that you seem to assume that you are seeing something that the others are not seeing, and thus you point nowhere visible. Try instead to point at the things they are seeing and explain the relations that you think they miss.

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    10. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 26 Dec 2019
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      I tried to do that. I pointed out that you can't define intelligence without first having a better ontology for information. Here's more detail:https://medium.com/intuitionmachine/a-new-theory-of-information-emergence-28de58a522c …

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Dec 2019
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      I think I understood you, and I agree on defining intelligence based on a sound understanding of information, but we have had that for a long time.

      2:51 AM - 26 Dec 2019
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        2. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 26 Dec 2019
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          If you mean by Shannon's information theory, then I disagree. If you mean something else revolving around semantic information (not syntactic) then its only recent. Cite papers on the later if you can please.

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        3. Mark Browne‏ @bitking69 26 Dec 2019
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          Granted that it is descriptive and not "turtles all the way down theoretic" this does a fair job of capturing the essence of semantic processing in the brain. https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/pdf/S1364-6613(13)00122-8.pdf … Checking note - hmmm - no quantum theory involved.

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