Skip to content
By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for analytics, personalisation, and ads.

This is the legacy version of twitter.com. We will be shutting it down on June 1, 2020. Please switch to a supported browser, or disable the extension which masks your browser. You can see a list of supported browsers in our Help Center.

  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • About

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
Plinz's profile
Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach
@Plinz

Tweets

Joscha Bach

@Plinz

FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

San Francisco, CA
bach.ai
Joined April 2009

Tweets

  • © 2020 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Imprint
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Wolf Tivy‏ @wolftivy 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation

      Wolf Tivy Retweeted Adam Smith Institute

      We did this experiment, and even manufactured perfect self-interested psychopaths (corporations) for it. But let me tell you, I don't eat their bread. Real humans we actually want to do business with are motivated by service. Money is facilitation and discipline, not motivationhttps://twitter.com/ASI/status/1209570038019166208 …

      Wolf Tivy added,

      Adam Smith InstituteVerified account @ASI
      https://twitter.com/danielalapidous/status/1207433994360496135 … pic.twitter.com/ktObbtglyv
      3 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @wolftivy

      Many necessary professions in our society do not offer much potential for self actualization, and are executed in a transactional exchange for payment.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Wolf Tivy‏ @wolftivy 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz

      Examples? I think this is an artificial condition imposed by bad social technology, and we fail to develop self-actualization and belief in the service role in eg janitors etc to our detriment.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @wolftivy

      Basically every job where you would instantly quit and become a surfer if you won a million dollars in the lottery.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Wolf Tivy‏ @wolftivy 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz

      It would be interesting to explore the boundary of that set, and what ideological and material conditions moves the boundary this way or that.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @wolftivy

      I think that you may be trying to build a society on fully shared purpose, which I applaud, but it may not be possible in practice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Wolf Tivy‏ @wolftivy 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz

      Obviously no perfection is possible in practice, and you need deep mechanisms for handling exceptions. But I think it's important to define the ideal vs the exception, and have our social narratives track towards idealism within structural constraints.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Dec 2019
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @wolftivy

      But even if you can turn garbage collection and abattoirs into places of altruistic worship, what do you do with those that discover that it is to their advantage to defect from the ideal social contract?

      2:07 PM - 24 Dec 2019
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        1. New conversation
        2. Wolf Tivy‏ @wolftivy 24 Dec 2019
          • Report Tweet
          • Report NetzDG Violation
          Replying to @Plinz

          Change the incentives so that it's not to their advantage to defect. Punish and oppress defectors, make sure cooperators are getting the budget and respect that they deserve. Same thing we always do. My point is to just *also* have a positive narrative for roles in society.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Wolf Tivy‏ @wolftivy 24 Dec 2019
          • Report Tweet
          • Report NetzDG Violation
          Replying to @wolftivy @Plinz

          Further, I claim that good people which is most people are motivated more by the positive narrative than the negative. They avoid the negative, and exploit the incentives, but they need positive narrative to really motivate.

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. 7 more replies

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2020 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Imprint
        • Cookies
        • Ads info