Language limited by thought; reality has no such constraints. Suspect Wittgenstein (& a few others) had access to Special Knowledge inasmuch as "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent." The "whereof" is not equivalent to an absence. I think we agree w diff vocabs.
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I think that you misunderstand Wittgenstein. In this phase of his thinking (Tractatus), he likely pointed out that you can only model what you can express in your language (whereby language is a symbolic automaton, and expression is implementation).
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Wittgenstein wasn't only interested in models. Thus also his frustration with philosophy and his coining "word games".
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Replying to @davidarredondo @Plinz and
The world is everything that is the case. What is the case (a fact) is the existence of states of affairs. And THEN he goes on to language etc. Language ( probably all of them) are limited and limiting.
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Seriously, I don't think that you read him correctly here. There is nothing vague in the Tractatus. Languages are sufficient to define computation, and computation is sufficient to implement everything else.
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"Computation is sufficient to implement everything else" is demonstably false ( e.g. creativity) So yes, here we have a foundational disagreement. All good. Lets watch each world unfold from each perspective and enjoy the variegation (!)
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I think that you are possibly to inexact in your thinking. I usually treat creativity as the bridging of discontinuities in a search space. Many search algorithms can do that, for instance evolution.
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The evolution of what, precisely?
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Evolution as an algorithm: take the model of an idea, mutate its parameters to create a few instances, pick the better ones, repeat.
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Man cannot ( and does not) live on the model of an idea. Ideas are fabrications of the mind ( and often math) that are impoverished imitations (and too often, substitutes) for reality. Full disclosure: reality is the only subject that interests me here.
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Every reality you experience is a model.
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False. Beleive or not, that is false. Every reality you THINK or experience is a model. But humankind is capable of much more than this.
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With a mind as spectacular as yours I cannot resist saying that you should get there. Not easy but neither is mathematics or modelling neuroscience.
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