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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      For the sake of viewpoint diversity / productively critical clash of ideas: The #SobSquad movement falls into "most disagree + I don't yet have an argument which stands up to their criticism + maybe they know something important".https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1204669821859713024 …

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      QC @QiaochuYuan
      Replying to @misen__ @Aryeh___ and 4 others
      excuse me sir the politically correct term is "cry guy"
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    2. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      I have tons of questions about it which'd be cool to hammer out. Like: -For traumatised adults only, or would children get value? -For all hang-ups, or mainly social ones? (Food hang-ups, spider fears?) -Is it the only way to get desired effects? -Do you REALLY not suffer‽ -etc

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    3. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      @Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan @Aryeh___ … Poooodcast? 😊

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    4. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      State of the argument so far: cryguys ↓ 😭💦🌊🏊‍♂️🚣‍♀️🏖 ↑ me #SobSquad

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    5. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      Salient issues: ▪︎ Can one experience negative emotions without suffering? (If not, what the heck are emotions?) ▪︎ Seems really good to not say to people "your emotions are bad, don't have them". ▪︎ Emotions may be more like physical sensations than ideas‽

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    6. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      @Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan @Aryeh___ (I would also accept a rap battle.)

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    7. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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      Things I'd need to answer: ▸ What the heck is happening when someone cries a bunch and then something releases and it feels good after and traumas appear cleared out? ▸ Is crying from being moved by beauty bad‽ If so, why? ▸ Mourning? ▸ How else do you solve deep trauma?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2019
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      This thread is touching me: It is as if you are sincerely noticing *for the first time* that it is not important that our emotions are pleasant, but that our emotions are accurate. Our emotions are not a reward system, they are senses that allow us to experience our reality.

      1:59 AM - 11 Dec 2019
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        2. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 11 Dec 2019
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          My view is a bit different, I think: I've never (explicitly) thought emotions are a reward system. Rather, negative emotions are bad because there's something bad going on. My question is whether that bad thing is happening on a meta level or object level, or multiple.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2019
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          I don’t think that life is supposed to be happy. Life is supposed to be meaningful. Whether we are happy depends on circumstances we cannot control: our preferences may not come true despite our best efforts. From a larger perspective, even traumatic things may be necessary.

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