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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 8 Dec 2019
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      discuss!https://twitter.com/MarkRiva/status/1203513651048509440 …

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      MarkRiva @MarkRiva
      How did life begin? ... What makes us human? ... What is consciousness? ... Why do we dream? ... Why is there stuff? ... What is the universe made of? ... Are we alone in the universe? ... Are there other universes?
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    2. Carnun Marcus-Page‏ @CarnunMP 9 Dec 2019
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      Replicators. Contingent evo history (if 'human' = animal label)/creativity (if 'human' = 'people'). 🤷‍♂️ Normal VR/hallucinatory process as when awake, uncoupled from sensory input. Anthropic argument works well here? Physical stuff instantiating abstract stuff/info. No. Yes.

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    3. Jamie‏ @beigege 9 Dec 2019
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      Are other conscious animals a vr program that is written by the environment/through force? And humans just an updated VR with a creative code writing program that can self edit (free will)?

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    4. Carnun Marcus-Page‏ @CarnunMP 9 Dec 2019
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      Preeetty much! Although I don't really know how to think about animal 'consciousness'. (Or human, for that matter... :D )

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    5. Jamie‏ @beigege 9 Dec 2019
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      dunno if this adds to VR concept but maybe as mental maps (written as configurations of neurons in CNS of internal body and external environment) feeling, being, a code that searches the map for places of conflict/lack of it, to direct action

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    6. Jamie‏ @beigege 9 Dec 2019
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      Somehow an emergent phenomenon of the code interacting with its mental maps and keeping a record (adjusting and adding to mental maps) of the changes through time.

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    7. Carnun Marcus-Page‏ @CarnunMP 9 Dec 2019
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      Sure. I like the mental maps idea. But my issue with consciousness is the "something it's like to be an X"-ness. Cos on the one hand, I worry it's a red herring: that there's _nothing_ it's like to be anything. But OTO, there certainly seems to be "something it's like" to be me!

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Dec 2019
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      When we say that consciousness is the "experience of what it's like," it is not just a figure of speech. A brain cannot know what anything is like, so it simulates that. The self is the simulacrum of the brain's agency, and the self's simulated access to the world is experience.

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        2. Carnun Marcus-Page‏ @CarnunMP 9 Dec 2019
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          This doesn't quite close the gap for me. I'm not confused about the self per se. I'm confused about why it *feels* like something to be (a simulated) self... if indeed it 'feels like' anything at all!

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Dec 2019
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          You basically exist in the same way as a character in a multi media novel. The novel is written by the brain. The content is exactly the one that is authored into your self-report.

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