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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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    Philosophy is mostly indexed by the names of philosophers, so they are more focused on creating recognizable brands than thinkers from other fields, and even refrain from revising their ideas, to remain recognizable. The best ideas are unrecognizable, because they are ubiquitous.

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      2. pete wolfendale‏ @deontologistics 2 Dec 2019
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        Frankly, I think this is bullshit. It ignores the sheer effort that involved in compressing, decompressing, and recompressing the whole history of conceptual innovation required to understand and debate ideas that remain contentious, while these debates are in process.

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      3. pete wolfendale‏ @deontologistics 2 Dec 2019
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        I teach philosophy, and I can tell you that the dependence on names you deride is often the best way of mapping the dialectical terrain and allowing students to address points within it, by learning to recognise proximity to certain prototypical positions.

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      2. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 2 Dec 2019
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        “Science advances a funeral at a time”? More so that philosophy?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Dec 2019
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        Many philosophers build their castles on indefensible hills, because all the good ones are taken, and they need to put themselves on the map. There is no mechanism that in philosophy that will force them to abandon their castle.

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      2. χandkar‏ @xandkar 1 Dec 2019
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        Likewise, most philosophy isn't necessarily branded as such. It's just thinking.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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        On the other hand, I am not sure if there have been significant philosophical insights after Turing, in the sense that someone understood something of deep significance that nobody else had ever seen.

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      2. Dr Anne Cregan‏ @AnneCregan 2 Dec 2019
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        https://conceptsinmotion.org/e-ideas/  is a Uni of Amsterdam project aiming to make concepts computable and trace their evolution thru time. I provided some input to Professor Arianna Betti, who leads it, at an early stage. An ambitious project I am watching with great interest! @ariannabetti

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      3. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 2 Dec 2019
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        I'm also mapping concepts! I'm using a sort of expanded Pascal's triangle as a decision tree. Basically, at each level of question — why, when, how, who, and what — we answer in a material/contraction/past way, or energetic/expansion/future way.https://twitter.com/thewiseturtle/status/1124054499855937538 …

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      1. Dragan Okanovic‏ @abstractalgo 1 Dec 2019
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        Yup, the biggest problem I had with philosophy. They start arguing with authors and their followers instead of ideas. One person can also change stances over time as they learn and evolve, yet others argue with all of it, instead of one specific view.

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      1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 2 Dec 2019
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        This "dead white guy" catalogue of "beliefs" that is called "philosophy" is only present in Western academia. Eastern philosophy, and non-academic philosophy is just what we humans with a prefrontal cortex do when we consider our place in the grand expanse of space~time.

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