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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 1 Dec 2019
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      .@ylecun This is outrageously false, and you know it. Rumelhart, Hinton and McClelland were attacking symbolists before I entered the field, in the 1986 PDP volumes, bitter at Minsky & Papert 1969. and @ylecun if you are going to attack at least have the grace to tag me 1/5https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1201233472989356032 …

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      Yann LeCun @ylecun
      GM is the root cause of the purported war between connectionists and symbolists He created it to make himself relevant. But it does not actually exist. Clamoring that DL should be hybridized with symbol manipulation is useless. Showing how to do it would be useful. https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1200798551132889090 …
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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @ylecun

      You are historically correct, but I think that @ylecun is right that within current AI, there is no actual animosity of DL against symbolic approaches, a lot of people ask how we can bring the capabilities of symbolic and connectionist approaches together.

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        2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 1 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @Plinz @GaryMarcus @ylecun

          Didn't you read the examples that were posted in this thread?

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        3. Tal Linzen‏ @tallinzen 2 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @Plinz and

          My experience is the same as @Plinz's, for the most part.

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        1. Kevin D. Keck‏ @kdkeck 2 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @Plinz @GaryMarcus @ylecun

          At the vanguard today, yes. Among practitioners, they're still mostly drinking the model-free koolaid.

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        1. Brigadirk‏ @Brigadirk 2 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @Plinz @GaryMarcus @ylecun

          Apparently there is!

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