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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      0 and 1 are the representations of the two "moves" in the game that the universe is playing with itself, you could say. They aren't numbers, right. They are the two things which can happen at any point in space~time, as the patterns of reality are generated by the algorithm.

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    2. #AXIL #codespeech #Temporalism #Aether‏ @drama_zero 30 Nov 2019
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      Except when you are moving with someone, they look like they are not moving. 0 and 1 can't cover relativity. There's more than 0 and 1, because the algorithm, if it exists, has to guess. Otherwise it gets lost in singularities.

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    3. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      You and I are different parts of the tapestry. So, naturally, as we are woven, we experience different perspectives of our surroundings.

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    4. #AXIL #codespeech #Temporalism #Aether‏ @drama_zero 30 Nov 2019
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      This is based on an assumption of no change. Nope.

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    5. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      I find most other humans incomprehensible, yet you are always worth listening to, and asking questions of, if there is enough time and energy for me to do so. We converse to clarify our own ideas, so it doesn't matter what others are actually thinking. I just take it all as art.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 30 Nov 2019
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      You don’t always see the difference between art and kitsch. There is a particular way in which you are already identified as seeing the world, which prevents you from actually looking. I find it unbearable.

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      The difference between art and "kitsch" is in the eye of the beholder.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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      The fact that you cannot tell the difference between art and kitsch makes your philosophy revolting to me. (I would not react so strongly if you would not force kitsch into most of our interactions.)

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    9. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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      If you would like me to stop responding to you, I'd be willing to do that, if you're that uncomfortable with even seeing the words that are associated with me.

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      The problem is never that your words are associated with you. It is the performance that disgusts me. You don’t care about whether what you say is true. You care about the emotion it elicits in you. You can mix art into kitsch, but don’t mix kitsch into art.

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        2. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          Finally, I'm saying that the words that are associated with me bother you. And for that, I'm sorry. Again, I'll stop responding to you if you want. I can't, however, stop being the way I am designed, by the universe. I'm not in control of the laws of physics.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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          I am aware of that. I can tell you that I think that you may be defecting from integrity if you privilege feeling good about yourself and your wiseturtling over being radically honest with yourself and others.

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        2. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          True is a meaningless concept to me. The map is not the territory. Communication is a map. It's never "true" in the sense of being accurate to the territory. It's always some kind of representation.

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        3. #AXIL #codespeech #Temporalism #Aether‏ @drama_zero 1 Dec 2019
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          True: known and unknown Real: now happens in real time Valid: verifiable Good: fitting This is the issue You're trying to fit truth in a box limited by language You're not comfortable with the limits so you reject true But others depend on true in order to build precise things

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        1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          And I tend to only operate on an emotional level when I'm lacking in my basic needs. Normally I would default to working at a philosophical level, creating new visions of a future for the world. Philosophy might seem like an emotional level, because it's feminine like emotions.

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        1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          You seem to be highly masculine, with a major focus on intellectual creation. I do that too. Which is why I probably find your work interesting.

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