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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      Pattern IS quantity. Pattern is the binary difference between everything and nothing, in my view of reality. Everything can be described as some arrangement of contraction (pure stability) and expansion (pure change).

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    2. #AXIL #codespeech #Temporalism #Aether‏ @drama_zero 30 Nov 2019
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      It's not a quantity that modifies other quantities in a mechanically countable way. Also you're describing logical operations using numerical analogies. 0 and 1 are not numbers in that space. They are filters.

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    3. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      0 and 1 are the representations of the two "moves" in the game that the universe is playing with itself, you could say. They aren't numbers, right. They are the two things which can happen at any point in space~time, as the patterns of reality are generated by the algorithm.

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    4. #AXIL #codespeech #Temporalism #Aether‏ @drama_zero 30 Nov 2019
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      Except when you are moving with someone, they look like they are not moving. 0 and 1 can't cover relativity. There's more than 0 and 1, because the algorithm, if it exists, has to guess. Otherwise it gets lost in singularities.

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    5. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      You and I are different parts of the tapestry. So, naturally, as we are woven, we experience different perspectives of our surroundings.

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    6. #AXIL #codespeech #Temporalism #Aether‏ @drama_zero 30 Nov 2019
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      This is based on an assumption of no change. Nope.

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    7. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 30 Nov 2019
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      I find most other humans incomprehensible, yet you are always worth listening to, and asking questions of, if there is enough time and energy for me to do so. We converse to clarify our own ideas, so it doesn't matter what others are actually thinking. I just take it all as art.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 30 Nov 2019
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      You don’t always see the difference between art and kitsch. There is a particular way in which you are already identified as seeing the world, which prevents you from actually looking. I find it unbearable.

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    9. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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      The difference between art and "kitsch" is in the eye of the beholder.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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      The fact that you cannot tell the difference between art and kitsch makes your philosophy revolting to me. (I would not react so strongly if you would not force kitsch into most of our interactions.)

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        2. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          If you would like me to stop responding to you, I'd be willing to do that, if you're that uncomfortable with even seeing the words that are associated with me.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Dec 2019
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          The problem is never that your words are associated with you. It is the performance that disgusts me. You don’t care about whether what you say is true. You care about the emotion it elicits in you. You can mix art into kitsch, but don’t mix kitsch into art.

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        1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          As I said, kitsch is in the eye of the beholder. It's subjective. And while I am fairly focused on what other people think and feel sometimes, I can't read your mind, so I would never really understand what you, as an individual, feel is the difference between art and kitsch.

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        1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 1 Dec 2019
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          As for forcing anything into our interactions, that's not something I can do. You are always free to think for yourself about every story I ever share with the world. But, again, I'm sorry that you're so upset with the part of reality that is me.

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