I think when Searle wrote this, he really did not understand that his own self is not executing the algorithm, but exists only within the books. I think that he repeated the argument in public lectures in his later years mostly because it represents the core of his brand.
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There are clearly algorithms that can run without generating 1st person phenomenology. What would be minimally be required for a system (hardware/set of algorithms) to generate first person qualia?
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Replying to @djswagerman @Plinz
Minimum hardware set to generate a qualia would be a sensor, process, and response to satisfy a driver.
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No, you can build that but it won’t have qualia.
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What work do you suppose it is that quaila do? Why do representations have to feel like anything? Don’t the mechanisms do all the work? That is the hard problem.
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Qualia is necessary for systems with multi sensory input feeding into an undefined neuron space of the cortex. Neurochemical processes initiated when behavior drivers are satisfied is the primary mechanism to link and manage neuron patterns for adaptation and optimization.
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Neurons and neurochemical processes are in physical reality. Qualia are in the simulation, not physical reality. We can’t call on them to do physical work.
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Qualia are part of our model of the physical work that is being done.
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So the hand moves from the flame because of 1) nerve impulses (physical) and 2) pain (qualia). But if we are saying this, we can’t say qualia are instantiated by physical processes, no?
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We are saying there is relationship of identity not causality. The nerve impulses don’t cause the pain, the nerve impulses just are the pain.
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Do you also think that wheels are identical to electromagnetic forces translating angular momentum between rubber molecules and metal atoms?
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If you’re suggesting that qualia and neurophysiology are merely different levels of description, I disagree.
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No, I just think that identity theory is confused, for a number of reasons.
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