I'm struggling with "simulation"! You mean matter&forces on the one hand, and p-consciousness on the other, are both 'expressions' of some underlying unified reality & you're using the word simulation where I've just used the word 'expression' ?
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @Plinz and
The human mind can be conceived of as a model/simulation of what-is. A property of the simulation might be “chair” “fun” or “self” etc. i.e. content. However, some aspects of this simulation, such as p-consciousness, are properties not of the simulation but rather what-is.
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Replying to @Hutcheson @Plinz and
I believe that part of my mind's working includes using models of the world but to say my mind /is/ a model/simulation is a whole different thing. Why would I believe that?
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @Hutcheson and
Well, there’s the premise that IF we will someday be capable of seamless reality simulation, then the statistical probability that we are already living in a simulation is very high. If you accept that initial premise, then the Simulation Hypothesis has a high degree of validity
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @Hutcheson and
I'm not sure if that is what
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @SimsYStuart and
But the Simulation Hypothesis 1st assumes that 'I am a Turing Machine' is viable. If we locate consciousness in the Turing Machine per se, then we must say that a stack of printouts on a very long shelf is conscious, if it contains the full description of a TM and its history
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @SimsYStuart and
No, we don't have to say that a stack of printouts is conscious. It is going to say that by itself, if you understand its language.
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Replying to @Plinz @SimsYStuart and
let me prod this line a little further: “Machine” in the name TM distracts us with subliminal memories of phenomenologically! exciting! things! that move & whiz Also “Simulation” : it excites memory of dazzling! VR! or Hollywood Movies /full/ of colour! sound! bangs! flashes! …
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @Plinz and
We experience the evocation of really! really! exciting! phenomological experience simultaneous with the denotation of TM, Simulation, Story as Abstract Mathematical Structure. Subliminally we associate the Pure Abstract Structure & the evoked! exciting! & lively! phenomenology!
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @Plinz and
The belief that Abstract Structure can be affective experience is just a leap of imagination. The appeal lies in the sleight of word Change the vocabulary. Recursive Function or Lambda Formula; not Turing Machine. Algorithm written out longhand in pencil on paper; not Simulation
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I once taught philosophy students both TM and Lambda calculus, and most initially felt that the latter was more powerful because it could do things in parallel. All these intuitions have to go. You need to stop thinking in metaphors. Pencil on paper does not cut it either.
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