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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Dustin Hutcheson‏ @Hutcheson 22 Nov 2019
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      For instance, the “fundamental” forces may be, in some form, properties of base reality and not properties of our subjective simulation(s). That is, the property of change/interaction/differentiation.

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    2. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 22 Nov 2019
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      I'm struggling with "simulation"! You mean matter&forces on the one hand, and p-consciousness on the other, are both 'expressions' of some underlying unified reality & you're using the word simulation where I've just used the word 'expression' ?

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    3. Dustin Hutcheson‏ @Hutcheson 22 Nov 2019
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      The human mind can be conceived of as a model/simulation of what-is. A property of the simulation might be “chair” “fun” or “self” etc. i.e. content. However, some aspects of this simulation, such as p-consciousness, are properties not of the simulation but rather what-is.

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    4. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 22 Nov 2019
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      I believe that part of my mind's working includes using models of the world but to say my mind /is/ a model/simulation is a whole different thing. Why would I believe that?

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    5. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 22 Nov 2019
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      Well, there’s the premise that IF we will someday be capable of seamless reality simulation, then the statistical probability that we are already living in a simulation is very high. If you accept that initial premise, then the Simulation Hypothesis has a high degree of validity

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    6. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 22 Nov 2019
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      I'm not sure if that is what @Hutcheson means by 'simulation', I think he's suggesting something else?

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    7. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 22 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @chrisfcarroll @SimsYStuart and

      But the Simulation Hypothesis 1st assumes that 'I am a Turing Machine' is viable. If we locate consciousness in the Turing Machine per se, then we must say that a stack of printouts on a very long shelf is conscious, if it contains the full description of a TM and its history

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    8. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 22 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @chrisfcarroll @SimsYStuart and

      I'd rather say we should notice that a TM, like any other mechanical device, doesn't experience things. It just does things.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 22 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @chrisfcarroll @SimsYStuart and

      I think that is correct. A physical thing cannot experience anything. Only a simulation can. Physical things can implement simulations, however.

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    10. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 22 Nov 2019
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      So you’re conceptualizing conscious as a holographic simulation created by the physical brain? That’s interesting.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 22 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @SimsYStuart @chrisfcarroll and

      I don't know if it is best characterized as holographic, or how you define holographic here. But I think that a conscious observer is self-reporting on a model of its own attention, and the content of that is a specific relationship between observer and observed simulacrum.

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        2. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 22 Nov 2019
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          Sounds like a “user interface” for a biological robot, when you put it like that. But the idea is attractive. Have you written a paper along these lines?

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        3. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 22 Nov 2019
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          Are you basing this concept on Pribram & Bahm’s model of the holographic brain? That’s the first model which leapt to mind when you described the idea.

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        1. Clarity‏ @SurviveThrive2 23 Nov 2019
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          So you are not conscious if you can’t self-report on a model of your own attention? Since there are many cases where a living conscious person not doing this would imply unconsciousness it’s not a useful idea.

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