So what we think of as experientially model-free or concept-free still have their own structure at a higher level. What really drops away is the subjective talking-mind; the inner voice; the subjective conceptual framework.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @Plinz and
Yeah. Assuming our best computat models apply everywhere is just that - an assumption. Why should it apply to the unknown or unknowable? This is NOT to detract from the dazzlingly elegant models composed recently. The models are just incomplete & the best out there dont deny it.
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Replying to @davidarredondo @Plinz and
Yeah this is kinda my intuition. But I think that if the Deutsch CU hypothesis doesn’t apply to mental states in the way I’m imagining, then it implies something like panpsychism and distinct experiences for most objects.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @davidarredondo and
I should prob just go learn to code.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @Plinz and
Mental states ( thoughts, sensations, feelings, experiences) are limited and limiting. Our brains are crude instruments. Language falls apart in describing what's beyond mental function but it is there nonetheless. Some refer to it as *the substrate* but its alive & aware.
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Replying to @davidarredondo @RealtimeAI and
Of course you will discover that your substrate is alive and aware, because you will per default perceive that you are your self, not your mind, i.e. the mental architecture that produces the computational simulation that your self inhabits.
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Replying to @Plinz @RealtimeAI and
Great point. Confirmation bias! Experientially ( fwiw) its more like a burning flame . Tell me, why computational simulation - is that thought to be our final human understanding? Something else? I dont understand the certainty.
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Replying to @davidarredondo @Plinz and
I suppose we can describe a flame computationally ( can we?) but somehow but seems to miss something essential. The creative aspect of it (for example).
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Don't worry, computation does not carry any of the baggage you intuit. All content rests on languages, and in the first half of the last century we discovered that all languages that can mean anything are computational.
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Replying to @Plinz @davidarredondo and
“Reality is a language that is talking to itself about itself.” Chris Langan
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