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    1. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 14 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @Plinz @SimsYStuart @NeuroMyths

      Is “self is a story, mind a story generator” a description of the self from the functional (can I say 3rd person?) frame? Or does it aim to bridge gap between the frames? Is 'story' a special smthg that seems to make sense in both frames of reference no translation needed?

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @chrisfcarroll @SimsYStuart @NeuroMyths

      The story generator description exists within the mind as well and is not part of the ground truth, but it is a mathematical concept that does not require experience, and can be functionally realized. The experienced self is not real.

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    3. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 15 Nov 2019
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      Correct. However there are *experiences* (ways of ongoing perceptions) beyond concepts, constructs, words, models and thus communication. Kinda sucks for science but it is what it is. Truth decides, not man (in his commonly construed form). "Hard Problem" = facing wrong direction

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    4. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @davidarredondo @Plinz and

      Does this mean that epistemic substrate-independence due to computational universality is false?

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    5. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Nov 2019
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      Say that again in another way? Or maybe break it apart? As its worded im having trouble answering it..

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    6. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 21 Nov 2019
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      A mind function is a computer function. A computer function is the same function with the same results in any kind of computing system. So the kind of computer and the kind of system drop away at the level of the function. All are in *that* kind of system.

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    7. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Nov 2019
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      Thx. I believe that hinges on what is meant by "All" in your last sentence. Great question. Define "All" and ill give it my best shot..

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    8. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @davidarredondo @Plinz and

      Every experience is distinct and unique at the computation-function level of analysis and is at least correlated with (if not identical to) some physical event that instantiates that function.

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    9. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @RealtimeAI @davidarredondo and

      (By unique I mean that a function is that abstract function regardless of when and where and in what kind of physical system it is instantiated.)

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    10. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @RealtimeAI @Plinz and

      How many physical systems are there?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @davidarredondo @RealtimeAI and

      all of them

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        2. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 21 Nov 2019
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          I can’t follow this.

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        3. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Nov 2019
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          It was a humorous reply. We don't know how many physical systems there are.* Physical* means different things to different people. ( Cf material reductionists v david Deutsch ( for example))

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        1. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Nov 2019
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          😁👍👏 ( if i understand you correctly!)

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