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    1. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 14 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @SimsYStuart @Plinz @NeuroMyths

      The conceptual problem that I see, is mapping a '3rd person' description of a brain to 1st person subjective experience. There is no such mapping?

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Nov 2019
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      I don’t think that the functional implementation of the mind and the conscious self exist in the same frame of reference. From the perspective of the self, phenomenal experience is primary, outside of it, there is no experience. The self is a story, the mind a story generator.

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    3. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 14 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @Plinz @SimsYStuart @NeuroMyths

      Is “self is a story, mind a story generator” a description of the self from the functional (can I say 3rd person?) frame? Or does it aim to bridge gap between the frames? Is 'story' a special smthg that seems to make sense in both frames of reference no translation needed?

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Nov 2019
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      The story generator description exists within the mind as well and is not part of the ground truth, but it is a mathematical concept that does not require experience, and can be functionally realized. The experienced self is not real.

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    5. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 15 Nov 2019
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      Correct. However there are *experiences* (ways of ongoing perceptions) beyond concepts, constructs, words, models and thus communication. Kinda sucks for science but it is what it is. Truth decides, not man (in his commonly construed form). "Hard Problem" = facing wrong direction

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    6. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 21 Nov 2019
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      I don't go for "self is a story": –Stories don't have subjective experience. Having subjective experiences is core to a self. A Story can't /be/ It –“Story” is emotionally loaded metaphor. Strip the metaphor. As a functional artifact, it's just an Audit Trail

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    7. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @chrisfcarroll @davidarredondo and

      I think the point being made here is that from a practical perspective, the nuances of SE, these “stories” created by the cortex, are far less relevant to CS than is phenomenal experience. We can’t easily apply the scientific method to nuanced cortical artifacts (SE). No utility.

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    8. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @SimsYStuart @davidarredondo and

      (I mostly take CS to mean computer science? You mean Cognitive Science or ... ?)

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    9. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 21 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @chrisfcarroll @davidarredondo and

      Consciousness Studies.

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    10. Chris F Carroll‏ @chrisfcarroll 21 Nov 2019
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      Eek. I grow old. I didn't realise there was a field. Showing off my ignorance, I take a guess that it's currently a post-grad/research only field that overlaps with psychology & neuroscience and is not the same as cognitive science?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Nov 2019
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      I suspect that the philosophy presently done in cognitive science (especially at the boundary between AI and neuroscience) is probably not going to leave future generations in awe.

      12:46 PM - 21 Nov 2019
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