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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Oct 2019
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      It's funny how people think a post-apocalyptic landscape will be relatively flat socioeconomically. At most they think there will be small-scale warlords or Dunbar-scale anarchist communes. No. There will be deathstar billionaires with private armies and narrow-deep tech stacks.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Oct 2019
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      The industrial age has made us (falsely) believe that an "industrial base" has to necessarily be a nation-state scale at minimum. No. A complete industrial tech stack can be built as a fairly narrow single-billionaire pillar.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Oct 2019
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      A traditional "industrial base" has steel, sulphuric acid, power plants etc. at the bottom, and space programs and aircraft carriers at the top. This kind of stack can now be replicated with a *very* narrow footprint. I think you could do it for $3-4 billion in a small city.

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    4. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 5 Oct 2019
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      I did *not* expect to hear this take from you. Details???

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Oct 2019
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      Why not?

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    6. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 5 Oct 2019
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      Like, do you have links to estimates of what’s necessary for an “industrial base” & how much they cost? Have costs come down recently?

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Oct 2019
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      I mean why don’t you expect this thought from me? It’s a speculative first-principles hypothesis, not data-driven

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    8. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 5 Oct 2019
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      Because you don't seem to want power. "Being king is super easy...but I'd rather not" is an odd combination of opinions.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 5 Oct 2019
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      Venkat going full Vassar, unexpected for me too. But he does not appear drunk with lust for power, just doing the Evel Knievel thing over 16 Greyhound buses. Very respectable :)

      6:57 PM - 5 Oct 2019
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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 5 Oct 2019
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          You rationalists need to get out more among people who are NOT solving for world dominance. Us non-bond-villains are actually the majority you know. We just like the movies. Like right now, I’m solving for a snack within a minimum energy radius of my couch. That’s my Evil Plan.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Oct 2019
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          Who are these elusive people solving for world dominance that you talk of? Can I get an intro? It must be exciting to watch. (I am not even a rationalist, in the Bay area sense, even though I value the community.)

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