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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 8 Aug 2019
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    Imitating the human brain is not more likely to result in AGI than mathematical approaches, because human brains are not generally intelligent after all — Ben Goertzel, #AGI2019

    10:06 PM - 8 Aug 2019
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      2. Jprwg‏ @jprwg 9 Aug 2019
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        Surely if brains are not generally intelligent, that is quite strong evidence that general intelligence (at least what's meant by that definition) is not possible at all?

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      3. The Very Internet‏ @TheVeryInternet 9 Aug 2019
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        I would at least be curious to hear how the human brain can expect to recognize "general intelligence" if it is not itself g.i.

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      2. John Manedrake‏ @Xrayhighs 9 Aug 2019
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        Yeah, what happened to PSI theory(Dörner)? Is that still relevant?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Aug 2019
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        Yes, I still think it is the best approaches to build an understanding of emotion/motivation/sociality, and its relationship to the larger architecture. Dörner also has sound insights about representations and learning. Like Society of Mind, I think it will stay relevant.

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      2. Manuel Baltieri‏ @manuelbaltieri 9 Aug 2019
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        What definitions of AGI do people stick to, generally? I always took for granted that the best approximation we have comes from human beings.

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      3. Marco lin‏ @marcolin91 9 Aug 2019
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        At some point I started to believe that some ideas of AGI seem to not just come from human beings' intelligence, but from our imagined fantasies about what general intelligence - in the ideal or in our case - entails. It often feels more of a tacit wish than a real definition.

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      1. Francesca Pallopides‏ @FPallopides 9 Aug 2019
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        AGI - actually general intelligence

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      1. 3ॐc³‏ @S33light 9 Aug 2019
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        Neither brains nor math have any access to intelligence. Both are anesthetic and automatic. Intelligence is the opposite- it is always aesthetic and participatory...a refinement of caring that breaks all systems.

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      1.  🦋 Cornelia Oldekamp‏ @nr1woman 9 Aug 2019
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        Jokester.

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      1. Rajinder Joat‏ @bloodyquantum 9 Aug 2019
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        ...why’s everyone trying to shoehorn backprop into fruition ?

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