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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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      What we call “faith” is a basic function of human reason, intelligence, and sentience itself. Life is filled with mysteries with no answers, and many of those mysteries directly impact our future selves. So we use available evidence and apply our cognitive faculties to try ...

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    2. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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      ... and predict what will happen to our future selves. What happens when we die? What is the purpose of my existence? Does my Life have any meaning? These existential question have no answers. But our emotional inventory places such a high value on the answers ....

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    3. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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      ... that we are instinctually compelled to try and create answers in the absence of evidence. Predicting the future is one of the primary characteristics of human intelligence. It’s an adaptive trait with a high survival value.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jun 2019
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      I disagree. The meaning of our life is precisely the reward function we are operating on. Analytically figuring out what that function looks like is not required for acting on it, and it is not trivial to discover that we act eg on behalf of our grandchildren before they are born

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jun 2019
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      The meaning of our life is based on priors that have been implanted into us by evolution and recent mutations, and cultural software that hooks into them. Religious faith is a particular type of cultural software, one that was deliberately designed to keep the peasants in check.

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    6. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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      Yes, faith is very commonly twisted into that shape by cynical people, unfortunately. But formalized religion provides very useful heuristics by which billions of people make life decisions. Faith is both functional and adaptive.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jun 2019
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      Of course it is functional and adaptive, otherwise faith based populations would not have displaced secular ones. However, the adaptive value is very high for agricultural workers in feudalist societies, and rather low for generals, scientists, government advisors and popes.

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    8. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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      Yes, the simple behavioral heuristics of organized religion lose utility when applied with more complex problems often faced by generals, scientists, popes, etc. This is both a burden and a terrible privilege endured by those of very high intelligence.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jun 2019
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      One of the most beautiful tricks of religion is religious platonism: the ugly mishapen and cruel thing that you get taught by your local cult is only the shadow of religion's true, perfect and angelic form, which you can try to construct yourself.

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    10. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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      The human population has many limitations imposed by the IQ distribution. I’d say individuals creating a functioning religious belief system from scratch is one of those limitations.pic.twitter.com/G5zNLOupAg

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jun 2019
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      These systems are usually not created from scratch. You can easily trace the genealogy of the dominant cults.

      11:39 AM - 26 Jun 2019 from New Orleans, LA
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        2. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart 26 Jun 2019
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          Yes, but the vast majority of people have no interest in Zoroastrianism or the Avesta, or the Egyptian Book of the Dead, or the Upanishads. Much less the ability to absorb that material and make the connections between those ideas and modern religious mythology. Human limitation

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jun 2019
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          The vast majority of people also have no interest in finding out how their sausage is made. The appetizing commercial is more than sufficient.

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