Maybe if we didn't assume that our frame is right and the other person's wrong, that our frame good and the other person's bad, that we're good and the other person is bad ...
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Maybe we could see some common issues that we agree upon, and find some approaches that we could both use to make the world a better place for all of us.
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No, that's obviously bullshit. There's only one right frame, only one right way, only one right party, only one right person. That's one thing we can all be sure of.
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Replying to @RonJeffries
In five minutes, lets fight people that think that some sids and autism are caused by vaccines! :)
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Replying to @Plinz @RonJeffries
Perfect example how you're wrong on Ron's point & vaccines. Science hasn't proven vaccinations don't cause autism. Researchers claim vaccines aren't responsible. Not the same thing. Vaccinations are events in which vaccines are but 1 factor. Scientific discipline tests all.
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Replying to @Huperniketes @RonJeffries
It seems to me that while vaccinations are on the surface a scientific issue, sociologically the resistance to the resistance is largely part of a culture war. (Which of course means that I should not have written the above, because it cannot achieve much good)
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Replying to @Plinz @Huperniketes
I'm not clear on the notion of culture war. however, as for vaccines::autism, on one side we have many studies showing no link, and on the other side we have ... what? people with no studies?
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Replying to @RonJeffries @Plinz
To conclude there's no correlation between vaccinations and autism disorders because there's no correlation between vaccines and autism disorders isn't science. It's a leap of faith.
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Replying to @RonJeffries @Plinz
The reports were of behavioral changes due to getting vaccinated. Maybe. Maybe something else around the same time. A vaccination is an event, of which a vaccine is but one component of many. Eliminating vaccines as a cause doesn't exonerate the vaccination process.
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The worries are not about behavioral changes due to being poked, but about irreversible neurological defects or death
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Replying to @Plinz @RonJeffries
That fear exists because science hasn't established the actual cause(s). Vaccines are the obvious suspect. Since vaccine proponents refuse to consider other factors (again, due to biases/beliefs), there is an impasse.
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