Because I see the thing as square, I'm pretty sure I could stand safely on top of it. You see that it is a round ball, and you're pretty sure I'd fall right off. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
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Maybe if we didn't assume that our frame is right and the other person's wrong, that our frame good and the other person's bad, that we're good and the other person is bad ...
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Maybe we could see some common issues that we agree upon, and find some approaches that we could both use to make the world a better place for all of us.
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No, that's obviously bullshit. There's only one right frame, only one right way, only one right party, only one right person. That's one thing we can all be sure of.
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Replying to @RonJeffries
In five minutes, lets fight people that think that some sids and autism are caused by vaccines! :)
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Replying to @Plinz @RonJeffries
Perfect example how you're wrong on Ron's point & vaccines. Science hasn't proven vaccinations don't cause autism. Researchers claim vaccines aren't responsible. Not the same thing. Vaccinations are events in which vaccines are but 1 factor. Scientific discipline tests all.
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Replying to @Huperniketes @RonJeffries
It seems to me that while vaccinations are on the surface a scientific issue, sociologically the resistance to the resistance is largely part of a culture war. (Which of course means that I should not have written the above, because it cannot achieve much good)
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Replying to @Plinz @Huperniketes
I'm not clear on the notion of culture war. however, as for vaccines::autism, on one side we have many studies showing no link, and on the other side we have ... what? people with no studies?
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Replying to @RonJeffries @Huperniketes
In the other side: a lot of people sharing their individual stories about children suffering neurological or immune system problems after vaccination and feeling ignored by what they perceive as one-sided public discourse and medical studies they don’t trust.
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Have studies ever been wrong? Rarely wrong? Somewhat more than rarely wrong? People have varying degrees of belief in studies. And, the argument that a study is better than nothing doesn't work, if studies have been, at least sometimes, worse than nothing.
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I am not taking a stand against vaccination! But as far as I can see the fight over vaccinations involves very opinionated people on both sides that use arguments that they find convincing themselves but that are not well equipped to convince the other side.
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"convincing themselves" - most are very skilled at this :) creates an illusion that can make it even harder to convince the other side.
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