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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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    Perhaps instead if Universal Basic Income, there should be universal basic food, universal basic health care and universal basic housing?

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      2. Stephen Patterson‏ @PanPatterson 7 May 2019
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        Because big brother can’t trust people with their own choices. Very progressive. Government is our savior! Nothing could go wrong.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 7 May 2019
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        Not because of ideology but because of incentives. People are not intrinsically good or bad, in the long run they behave according to their actual incentives.

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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        It might create a baseline on the value/price relationship of food, housing and health care, incentivize innovation beyond that, benefit competition, while enabling individual experimentation and self actualization. It could also allocate independently of local cost of living.

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      2. Richard Brown‏ @Zoot_Allures 6 May 2019
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        I would like to add Universal Basic Transport

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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        I wondered about that too but perhaps this causes more problems than it solves? I am very uncertain about all of these concepts and would like to see good simulations of the consequences instead of moral arguments.

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      2. Ari Gesher‏ @arigesher 6 May 2019
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        Sorta? I thought the point of UBI is that things like food stamps are too restrictive in their assistance. People should be free to make their own choices on how they allocate resources. But yeah, market forces can distort the means needed to hit some minimum bar.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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        In practice the best implementation might be based on flexible choice, via an allowance that reflects local food prices and available resources. But paying a fixed amount for all costs of living may not create market baselines or even allow for covering higher needs in old age.

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      1. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 6 May 2019
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        It’s made of people!

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      2. David Schneider-Joseph‏ @TheDavidSJ 6 May 2019
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        We have pretty strong evidence of market failure in healthcare where states have been successful, and pretty strong evidence of regulatory failure in housing where markets would succeed.

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        got a link?

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