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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 6 May 2019
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      Silicon Valley rhetoric of “staged release” suggests it’s the algorithms that are powerful and dangerous. Completely false and disingenuous. It’s their monopolies on information that give them power. @matthewstollerhttps://twitter.com/j2blather/status/1125434175924912128 …

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      Joanna Bryson 2 @j2blather
      Jack says @OpenAI is using staged release to help society deal with gradually the innovations they've made. Releasing all the models at once is irreversable, but maybe releasing small models first allows backpedelling more easily. #ai4good https://twitter.com/j2bryson/status/1125432532747595777 …
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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @SimonDeDeo @matthewstoller

      I think that this misattributes tentative ideas from within a very small and heterogeneous group of AI engineers and AI impacts researchers to an entire entrepreneurial and media ecosystem. And the worry about releasing potential WMDs into the public may not be completely false!

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @Plinz @SimonDeDeo @matthewstoller

      The question of the goals, means and stakeholders of the imminent regulation of social media is almost entirely separate from the question which research should be made publicly available. Pretending that this is the same question may appear politically expedient but is dangerous

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    4. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @Plinz @matthewstoller

      I can't quite parse your tweets here. Every biomedical company, hardware firm, etc runs on the patent system, where the methods are placed immediately into the public domain so that anyone can implement them. The idea that these algorithms are, in contrast, WMDs... just absurd!

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @SimonDeDeo @matthewstoller

      There is a bunch of biomedical and military weapons research that is not freely available in the public domain. The idea that some nontrivial algorithms could have such a deleterious effect on humanity that they should not be generally known does not strike me as a priori absurd.

      12:57 PM - 6 May 2019 from Palo Alto, CA
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        2. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 6 May 2019
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          A priori absurd is a pretty high bar! I will settle for ex post absurd.

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        3. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus 6 May 2019
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          I'll also add that the algorithms which will tend to have the most deleterious effects are not the ones that get the most attention.

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