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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17 Apr 2019
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      Yes! And not just total behavior of system, but how it fits into its context, and the design space of alternative systems and possible revisions

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    2. Plague Misha‏ @drethelin 17 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @KevinSimler

      But this is literally what conversations about decision theories on Lesswrong are like!

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @drethelin @KevinSimler

      Hmm... maybe a specific example of that would help?

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    4. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 30 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drethelin @KevinSimler

      https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i3BTagvt3HbPMx6PN/embedded-agency-full-text-version …

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 30 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @drethelin @KevinSimler

      Thanks! I read the intro and conclusion of this (and very quickly scanned the stuff in between to see if anything looked surprising at a glance, which it didn’t). If I TL;DR’d it as “here are a bunch of reasons decision theory doesn’t work in the real world” would I be wrong?

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    6. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 30 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drethelin @KevinSimler

      i would TL;DR it as "here are a bunch of problems a decision theory would need to solve in order to work in the real world", where "work in the real world" means we can use the concepts from it to think non-confusedly about the properties of real AI systems

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 30 Apr 2019
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      So, at what point should one look at the list of apparently-very-hard problems and say “this looks like the wrong approach, let’s try Plan B”? For me that was 1987: https://www.aaai.org/Papers/AAAI/1987/AAAI87-048.pdf …

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 30 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @VesselOfSpirit and

      With Plan B being to become a Buddhist and start a blog about nebulosity?

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    9. Suey Generous‏ @kindnemesis 30 Apr 2019
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      I'd like to hear you two debate this on @DeconstructingU and then I want to read a 10,000-word essay about the debate by @everytstudies. This is the nerdiest sentence I have written to date.

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    10. Deconstructing Yourself‏ @DeconstructingU 1 May 2019
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      Replying to @kindnemesis @Plinz and

      I'm certainly happy to record you two talking about almost anything. However, I'm not really into "debates." Let's favor kindness in conversation. ❤️🌈🙏🏻

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2019
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      Replying to @DeconstructingU @kindnemesis and

      I value David’s mind and perspective immensely and think that our disagreements can be very productive. I favor kindness in conversation as well. I don’t sense that he is interested in personally engaging with me though, and I respect that.

      11:13 AM - 1 May 2019
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