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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. svateboje‏ @svateboje 19 Apr 2019
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      thanks! coincidentally i finished reading your Rejecting the Received View like 10 minutes ago. all made sense to me. Q of course is what can you do w the restricted concept. apparently enactive autopoesis... i will need to read more!

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    2. Joe Dewhurst‏ @joe_dewhurst 19 Apr 2019
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      Cool, glad you enjoyed it! "Individuation without Representation" develops some of the same ideas, although I think there are still problems. To be clear I don't think enactive autopoiesis strictly follows from this approach to computation, but it is at least compatible.

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    3. svateboje‏ @svateboje 23 Apr 2019
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      found time for your review of Piccinini. thanks for making that available. if you have time & inclination, i'm curious re the foundational role of gates & how to ID. may have missed it, but doesn't seem to come out in his SEP article. is that something that fits a tweet or two?

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    4. Joe Dewhurst‏ @joe_dewhurst 24 Apr 2019
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      Do you mean in terms of how the focus of a lot of this discussion in on how to individuate basic logic gates, rather than other kinds of computational component? I think this is really just a reflection of the foundational role that (e.g. NAND) gates play in digital computers...

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    5. Joe Dewhurst‏ @joe_dewhurst 24 Apr 2019
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      ...such that you might think of them as one of the most primitive kinds of component. Piccinini has some discussion in his book of more complex kinds of component, like arithmetic logic units, but there hasn't (to my knowledge) been much philosophical discussion of this.

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    6. Joe Dewhurst‏ @joe_dewhurst 24 Apr 2019
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      There should probably also be more discussion of software, in terms of a philosophy of *computer science* rather than a philosophy of *physical computation* (these might perhaps be slightly different things). I've tended to focus on the latter, and I use simple logic gates...

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    7. eripsa‏ @eripsa 24 Apr 2019
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      It is endlessly surprising to me that these foundational issues in computer science are so poorly understood in philosophy, especially by critics of computationalism who ought to know better.

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    8. eripsa‏ @eripsa 24 Apr 2019
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      It was illusion-shattering for me to read Floridi argue that the Curry-Howard correspondence implies that Turing machines can never be conscious. This argument rests on deep errors in comprehension of basic computer science. https://aeon.co/essays/true-ai-is-both-logically-possible-and-utterly-implausible …pic.twitter.com/ADnPB5VQpl

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    10. eripsa‏ @eripsa 25 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @TokyoDan @Plinz and

      Sorry, perhaps you misunderstood. The illusion that shattered was that the top ranks of AI Philosophy were competent and knowledgeable regarding their subject matter. No competent expert could make the argument I quoted above. The emperor has no clothes.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Apr 2019
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      These cannot be the top ranks.

      8:15 PM - 25 Apr 2019 from Menlo Park, CA
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        2. eripsa‏ @eripsa 25 Apr 2019
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          Is there anyone more prominent in phil tech, especially regarding ties to both industry and government, than Luciano Floridi? I think he's the top of the stack. Says something about the stack, and what rises to the top.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Apr 2019
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          Philosophy is probably dead as a discipline now? Most of the thinkers I know would take a different branding.

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