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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 30 Mar 2019
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      A tumor is a part of an organism that has mutated to play a much shorter game than the organism itself. Humanity seems to be a tumor on the biosphere. The industrial revolution is that happy moment when the host was switched to mostly delivering nutrients to the tumor.

      11 replies 21 retweets 102 likes
    2. Sam‏ @Crit_Rat 4 Apr 2019
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      The biosphere doesn’t have moral status. Humanity does. Humanity is literally the most important entity in the universe since we are the _only_ important entity in the universe.

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    3. Logan‏ @ChipkinLogan 4 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @Crit_Rat @Plinz @cosimia_

      Surely non-Universal Explainer yet conscious creatures matter more than unconscious objects?

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    4. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott 4 Apr 2019
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      If so, it is H. Sapiens alone who make this determination. Until such time we can communicate with other species.

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    5. Logan‏ @ChipkinLogan 4 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @DoqxaScott @Crit_Rat and

      Hmm, that is interesting. I see what you're saying, but in addition, don't you think that moral principles exist independently of our existence, much as physical principles do?

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 4 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @ChipkinLogan @DoqxaScott and

      I experience moral principles as upstream from my self, i.e. my mind implements them above my systems of belief, and moral principles are rationally interdependent, but they do not exist independently from my mind. They are not physical, but identifications that I can change.

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    7. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott 4 Apr 2019
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      I think they are discovered through social cognition (argument).

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 4 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @DoqxaScott @ChipkinLogan and

      In the sense that social cognition is one where other agents are the object, yes. I find the idea that intersubjectivity is a good source for moral principles questionable.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott 4 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @Plinz @ChipkinLogan and

      Do you agree morality is the question of what to do?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 4 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @DoqxaScott @ChipkinLogan and

      I see it more as the preference for what you should do in the absence of expected reward.

      5:15 PM - 4 Apr 2019 from Palo Alto, CA
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        2. emily_‏ @cosimia_ 4 Apr 2019
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          you're a smart cookie

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        3. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott 4 Apr 2019
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          OK. I see all action as reward driven. Even when that reward is resolving conflict between an idea/feeling/emotion and reality. Such as responding to desire, aversion or boredom. Therefore, all action has a moral valence.

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