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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 28 Mar 2019
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      Here's an argument on how and why phenomenal consciousness might emerge over a mode of attentional learning http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-2287/paper29.pdf …

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 28 Mar 2019
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    3. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 28 Mar 2019
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      2/2 or that a surfer surfs all waves simultaneously while deciding after the fact which is the best. 3/3 hence I'm speculating we have reality inside out and backwards. We may not disagree, btw.

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    4. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 29 Mar 2019
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      4/4 "For something to qualify as an experienced content, it is necessary & sufficnt to be recalled as having been th subject of our attention. We cannot recall what we don't remember having attended to". Explain masking which contradicts last statement plz

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Mar 2019
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      Masking means that we stop having been conscious of a stimulus.

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    6. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 29 Mar 2019
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      Or stimulus was experienced unconsciously to begin with, hence no conscious memory of it is expected. As in very short duration stimuli- say 350 milliseconds.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Mar 2019
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      I am not sure what it means to experience unconsciously. Is it sufficient that a part of your nervous system registered the stimulus and passed it on, even if it was dismissed or not integrated somewhere higher up?

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    8. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 29 Mar 2019
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      Yes. The former at the least.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Mar 2019
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      In that case, I would not say that "I" have experienced that. For that, it seems to be necessary that "I" have a chance remembering it later on.

      3:31 PM - 29 Mar 2019 from California, USA
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        2. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 29 Mar 2019
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          Yeah The illusory ( albiet useful "I" ) has next to nothing to do with any of this. Not necessary for consciousness ( as you know).

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Mar 2019
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          I think that only the I is conscious. (You can strip out the I content of course, but it's still a dream character that experiences a dream.)

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        1. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 29 Mar 2019
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          ANY consciousness.

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