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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Mar 2019
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      Solving the mind body problem does not involve understanding the relationship between two physical entities, but between two mental models, and requires modeling how the mind forms these models and the relationship between them.

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    2. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 20 Mar 2019
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      What is the mind?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Mar 2019
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      The mind is the set of functional mechanisms that produces the representations that the self experiences. I think of it as an AI that runs on the brain and generates a VR that predicts sensory data (the world) and ideas about it.

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    4. Robert Janda‏ @RJsnda 20 Mar 2019
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      Would you comment on Susan Blackmore’s opinion that inner self is just illusion created by competing memes in their effort to replicate themselves? Any relations to your model?

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    5. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 20 Mar 2019
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      So you consider the mind and the self to be separate objects? I think that if there is no self then it cannot even be an illusion. There is only the illusion created by the mind that ones self is in it impossibly.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Mar 2019
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      There is a self, but it is a simulacrum created by the mind.

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    7. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott 20 Mar 2019
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      Self is the mind's representation (concept) of itself.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Mar 2019
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      Yes. I think of the mind as the thing that authors the entire subjective universe, but if we become aware of that then the self encompasses this. Conversely, we can have an active mind while suspending the self, which just means that the mind does not model itself.

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    9. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 22 Mar 2019
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      Seems there's also a kind of "taking self as object" move. @Meaningness frames this as "selfing". It's not that there is no self in such a moment, but that there isn't a fixation on it. https://meaningness.com/self pic.twitter.com/6WCt7WXgoe

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    10. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 22 Mar 2019
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      As I understand it the self is an ever changing appearance produced by the mind. So the question is not what is the self, it’s what is the mind.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 22 Mar 2019
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      Replying to @SlaytonBenjamin @Malcolm_Ocean and

      I find it useful to think of the mind as an AI running on the brain. The mind is capable of producing a dynamic simulation that predicts sensory data, and a self that modeling the regulation targets and the state of the regulation.

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        2. Robert Janda‏ @RJsnda 22 Mar 2019
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          Is it the specific sort of AI program ? Unique? Running only on human brains?

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 22 Mar 2019
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          Very likely not

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        1. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott 22 Mar 2019
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          I think of the mind as carrying out computation that is capable of performing simulations of different kinds. Our awake sense experience, I think of as a "virtual reality" rendering.

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