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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Feb 2019
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    Let us play the longest game possible.

    1:24 PM - 9 Feb 2019 from Cambridge, MA
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      2. Jim Rutt‏ @jim_rutt 10 Feb 2019
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        ah! "longest game *POSSIBLE*" speaks to discount rates. At economically driven discount rates, the future essentially disappears in 50 years. Which definitely seems nowhere near long enough. Unless one truly believes "the singularity is near". How do we discount the future?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Feb 2019
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        Most of my friends seem to be eternalists, ie they are subconsciously driven by a reward function that integrates over an unbounded span (most if which lies outside of the universe). In practice, continued existence is not relevant, because there is no true continuity anywhere.

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      2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Feb 2019
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        Actually, I prefer impossibly long games

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      2. Michael Cannon‏ @philososkier 9 Feb 2019
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        Do you think it right, and/or important, that current AI plays only finite games and, by contrast, even simple biology plays an infinite game (albeit eventually loses)?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Feb 2019
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        This is unrelated to AI, in the sense that human aesthetics depend on deviating from the rational optimum, the machine. Your soul is the difference between yourself and a perfectly rational agent with the same resources.

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      2. Captain Simple did what?‏ @JamieCombs 10 Feb 2019
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        What's the name of this game?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Feb 2019
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        Eternity

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      1. Donaldo Celaj‏ @DonaldoCelaj 9 Feb 2019
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        This is on par with “The last unpleasant conscious experience will be a precisely dateable event” -@webmasterdave , for quotes I’m willing to get tattooed on my body.

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      1. Lakshay Sagar Rana‏ @RanaLakshay 9 Feb 2019
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        keep adding one to the number i write next 1

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