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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jan 2019
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      It is a deep and harmful misunderstanding that learning should be fun. It rarely is. Learning should be meaningful.

      25 replies 18 retweets 101 likes
    2. 𝒶𝓁𝓌𝒶𝓎𝓈 🄵🅁🄴🅂🄷‏ @rhyolight 11 Jan 2019
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      Learning is much more successful when it is fun.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jan 2019
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      If you learn to learn based on fun most of your actual learning will be less successful.

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    4. 𝒶𝓁𝓌𝒶𝓎𝓈 🄵🅁🄴🅂🄷‏ @rhyolight 11 Jan 2019
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      If you spend your whole life actively exploring and learning about the things that truly interest you, learning will be fun and successful. I find learning to be inherently pleasant. I see your point only if when you are required to learn uninteresting things.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Jan 2019
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      Most relevant things that we have to learn in real life, like how to do taxes, brush shoes, write a glossary to a PhD thesis, clean a clogged pipe, deploy a Python app on MacOS, change diapers, solve integrals, review bad conference papers are neither fun nor interesting.

      10:39 AM - 11 Jan 2019
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        2. Chris Dancy‏ @ProfDancy 11 Jan 2019
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          All of those things can be fun depending on context and, perhaps, how you define fun.

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        3. Guillermo Valle‏ @guillefix 11 Jan 2019
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          Perhaps there is a way to make most things fun. Then "learning should be fun" is an statement about how to approach what you learn rather than about what to learn

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        2. Adrian Borucki‏ @ntoxeg 13 Jan 2019
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          "Relevant" doesn't imply "meaningful".

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Jan 2019
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          Sadly, that is true.

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        2. Carlos De la Guardia‏ @dela3499 11 Jan 2019
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          Carlos De la Guardia Retweeted David Deutsch

          https://twitter.com/daviddeutschoxf/status/1045631360738775041?s=21 …

          Carlos De la Guardia added,

          David Deutsch @DavidDeutschOxf
          Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf @webdevMason @asglidden
          Maybe I'm just rationalising. Maybe I just *want* it to be false that the best possible future is a boot stamping on a human face for ever. LOL just kidding. It really is false.
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        3. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 11 Jan 2019
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          How does this apply to doing my taxes? It’s not fun. Should I just not do it until it seems fun?

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        2. 𝒶𝓁𝓌𝒶𝓎𝓈 🄵🅁🄴🅂🄷‏ @rhyolight 11 Jan 2019
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          I guess some people just have more fun than others.

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        3. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI 11 Jan 2019
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          Yes. If someone can eventually figure out why that will be a big deal.

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        1. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 14 Jan 2019
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          Great thread. I will add, learning is only meaningful when it is experienced. Fun is just a motivator but fun does not get you experience. How do you experience something? You interact with it!!

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