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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Oren Etzioni‏ @etzioni 26 Dec 2018
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      Oren Etzioni Retweeted shawn lawrence

      Or it could be the beginning of a new kind of science where people form theories to explain machine findings....https://twitter.com/_SalvorHardin/status/1078053904577904641 …

      Oren Etzioni added,

      shawn lawrence @_SalvorHardin
      That would be a sad and phantasmagoric ending for science. Dispiriting that there's such an appetite to be relieved of thinking by machines that will reinforce an era of increasingly provincial improvement and increasingly grand stagnation. https://twitter.com/etzioni/status/1078045485871624192 …
      5 replies 4 retweets 23 likes
    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @etzioni

      The problem of breaking down difficult models into hierarchies of chunks that humans can understand might be left to machines as well at some point.

      2 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    3. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 27 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @etzioni

      Yes, 'fake explanations' is the eventual future:https://medium.com/intuitionmachine/achieving-fake-explanations-in-ai-5e63b289a3ef …

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Burrr‏ @burrhannes 27 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @Plinz @etzioni

      "trust in machinery is achieved through reliability" this is incorrect or at least not state of the literature, see Lee & See, 2006

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    5. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 27 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @burrhannes @Plinz @etzioni

      What does the literature say?

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    6. Burrr‏ @burrhannes 27 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @Plinz @etzioni

      Lee and Moray identified 3 factors: reliability, purpose (do I have faith in the designer?), process (are the mechanism appropriate for the task - understandability appends here), and performance (perceived reliability).

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus 27 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @burrhannes @IntuitMachine and

      There's also the possibility that any function that can be learned (most cannot, too high kolmogorov complexity) can also be effectively coarse grained and presented composably. The AI would, like Euler, just write up its discoveries in dozen book series.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 28 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @sir_deenicus @IntuitMachine @etzioni

      Consider that we may be living in a universe where the functions that govern its dynamics can be decomposed into simple ones (that still yield observables). Even if not, the remainder will have to be treated as noise.

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    9. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 28 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @sir_deenicus @etzioni

      That would imply a universe of non-Turing machines.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 28 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @sir_deenicus @etzioni

      There are only finite state machines.

      4:03 AM - 28 Dec 2018 from Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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        2. Ahmed Ghannam‏ @FieryPhoenix7 28 Dec 2018
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          I personally don't think of computers as Turing machines, although in practice it isn't a wrong statement. In a strict sense, we live in a universe of finite-state machines. It's the only model of computation that exists in the material world.

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        3. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 28 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @FieryPhoenix7 @Plinz and

          So what's the argument for this conjecture?

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        1. Carlos E. Perez‏ @IntuitMachine 28 Dec 2018
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          This needs an explanation because it appears to be wrong.

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