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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      I have a hunch that what i'm doing is a sort of event driven "call-and-response" style memory. In essence, I'm encoding a chain of associations as a linear narrative, because while experiencing time doesn't work for me, my cause-and-effect reasoning still works.

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    2.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      I've talked a bit about this in the past, if esoterically;https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/880224475685539840 …

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      Human psy·cho·so·cial behavior: event driven lazy-evaluating Bayesian network w/ narrative induced back-pressure? https://web.stanford.edu/~dntse/papers/zrt.pdf …
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    3.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      I've had some luck with "Narrative Analysis" as a way to ground my thinking. Building up chains of thought here on twitter work well for that as it anchors me toward a rough timelines even when I am not aware of it myself. Related:https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/819347216745775106 …

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      Narrative analysis has been shown to have some diagnostic utility for Theory of Mind concerns with schizophrenia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrative_identity#Schizophrenia …
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    4.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      The fun inference here is that I can also reverse the cause-and-effect bits. I always thought it was odd that I will often replay memento in reverse in my head. I even sometimes forget that they are in reverse order in the real movie until I remember that's the 'trick' it pulls.

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    5.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      I can't remember the exact way it was phrased, but I remember that a section of "The stuff of thought" by @sapinker talks about how cause-and-effect is encoded in language. But again, this is where autism is weird and suggests he's not considering that aspect.

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    6.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      Specifically, if you watch https://www.ted.com/talks/ajit_narayanan_a_word_game_to_communicate_in_any_language … - make a note how he discusses that "when"/"tenses" are often not understood intuitively for those on the spectrum. This is my experience as well, and I think is partly why non-24 is common in autistics.https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/816199471818244096 …

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      Only places I've seen any movement toward non-24 hour scheduling is in remote teams / timezone aware apps. Timezones still use 24hour tho.
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    7.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      Oddly, IIRC pinker goes into length on how some cultures have differences in their framing of direction and how that manifest in language norms. I'm basically just taking that and applying it to findings on tense/time as it manifests in those without a working model of duration.

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    8.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      There is some research to back this stuff up. But it was published in 2012. "The stuff of thought" was published in 2007; makes me wonder if Pinker has updated his thinking on the topic?https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/study-finds-grammar-tics-in-children-with-autism/ …

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    9.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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      I do have an appreciation of time passing, but it's like it isn't being incorporated in to my experiential reality. I can recite to you what 'time' is to other people, but seems be meaningless to me. To me it all blurs together as cause/effect.

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    10. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 23 Dec 2018
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      I have a suspicion that autism could relate to how many steps signals penetrate in the brain. If there is for instance too much local connectivity, the brain may dampen weak signals to avoid overflow, but that means that generalization will be shallow, over the previous layer.

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      It that is true, then event streams might for instance be remembered as causal order (connection creating history between individual events), and not additionally in relation to a generalized history that is shared across all events (global time).

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        2.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 23 Dec 2018
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          I am on the fence on the cause. It could be a low connectivity thing, or a poor signal strength thing, or purely a malfunctioning area (lesion?). Hard to disambiguate without actually looking at my brain in action, so i'm mostly just guessing as possibilities.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 23 Dec 2018
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          Absolutely, the diagnosis is mostly symptomatic and not functional. It could be that one receptor type is underperforming, one type of neurotransmitter is not synthesized in your gut, or your motivational biases are not wired up in the standard way or other things.

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