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    1. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      But EP has its flaws. Namely, it is built on an *implicit* premise that doesn’t fit a lot of interesting aspects of human behavior: That human behavior is best understood through pre-adaptations=evolved responses to environmental cues based on ancestral experience and selection

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    2. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      Let me illustrate w/ a few examples. But first, a preemptive response: every time I criticize EP, I get the retort that the human mind and it’s capacity to learn *had* to evolve. True. But that’s not the part I am disagreeing w/. I am disagreeing w/ the *implicit* premise above.

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    3. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      A few examples of this implicit premise in action: From aesthetics, politics, morality, principles, and passions.

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    4. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      Aesthetics: How can we best understand our sense of beauty? The standard EP view is Pinker’s visual cheesecake story: we like paintings of voluptuous women, sometimes exaggeratedly so, b/c such paintings exploit our evolved predispositions. Seems right.

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    5. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      But that’s only a small fraction of what’s interesting or puzzling about our sense of aesthetics. Take modern art for example. Almost none of that is cheesecake. Some of it is purposely grotesque. Other parts are highly cerebral.

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    6. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      And in almost all instances the artists message is purposely opaque, with hidden gems that take a lot of detective work and art criticism to uncover. Hard to explain that with cheesecake. Cheesecake also can’t explain why we like originals more than replicas. (See Paul Bloom.)

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    7. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      Take other components of our sense of aesthetics. In North East India, where I did some field work, many (male) villagers had two finger nails extra-long. Why? They told me it was beautiful. Wasn’t to me. Presumably not cheesecake.

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    8. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      I like antique wooden furniture, where you can seeen tiny squiggly lines in it, only producable by slow acting worms. Takes hundreds of years to make. If you didn’t know better. You would think the furniture is just full of cracks.

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    9. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      I also like artisanal chocolate. Particularly tasty is this grainy uneven stuff found in Boston, that a machine would have a hard time making, cause machines make smooth consistent chocolate.

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    10. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 13 Dec 2018
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      And for jewelery, I really like hammered metals. You know the kind that has to be done, unevenly, with a human and a hammer.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Dec 2018
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      In all these things, the attention and uniqueness that goes into the thing makes it more rare and thus symbolically more valuable.

      9:44 AM - 13 Dec 2018 from Cambridge, MA
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